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  • Perhaps many of you have heard already, but this is a significant topic to be covered. Please remember all my information is tentative and based soley on a few news articles which will not be referenced in this post, and further research is at your diescretion.

    On May 30th, 2014, a young girl of 12 years of age was apparently lured to a forest on the pretense of hanging out with two other girls of the same age, whose names have been publicly released, but will be withheld in this post. Therefore, we shall refer to them as A and B, and the victim as C.

    A and B stated on the context that Slender Man would appear and they would apparently go to live in his "forest mansion". To do so, they brutally stabbed C 19 times and attempted to keep her from being found by anyone. Luckily for C, she was approached by a bicyclist who proceeded to call 911 and save her life. C is currently, from what I can find, in critical condition, but thankfully alive and still kicking.

    A and B on the other hand, will be tried as adults and could face up to 60 years in prison time, meaning they would be released at the age of 72.

    Our condolensces go out to the families of both the victim and A and B, who have been apparently very distraught over the situation (which is of course no surprise). As an admin of the Slender Man wiki, it felt only appropriate to address this head on and tell the community why this should be taken as a cautionary tale of going too far.

    Slender Man does not want your ritual sacrifices. No part of the mythos lore has ever stated he lives in a "forest mansion", that he wants you to kill for him, or that you will become a proxy by killing for him. These things will not allow you to "see" the Slender Man. Additionally, we would like to remind everyone that Slender Man, while based on some lore, is mainly creepy horror stories. Every blog and Video series out there is entirely ficticious and is simply there for scary entertainment like a horror film. Stabbing a girl 19 times will not get you to see Slender Man, it will get your hands and legs bound in cuffs while you are lead to a bus. Said bus will then take you to where you will be living for years, maybe even decades, while you realize the reality of what you have actually done and the physical and emotional abuse you will suffer by the criminals surrounding you.

    Slender Man is not a tool or a cop out story for you to use as a flimsy justification for murder, theft, violence, or any other crime. If you ever feel Slender Man is telling you to kill, or you see him in your dreams insisting you kill, we strongly suggest you immediately seek medical attention as not only this is purely insane, it is also completely impossible.

    That said, I have already deleted two comments insinuating it is somehow our faults (the entire community) that this crime has taken place. While I do give my condolensces to the families as stated above, I think I can speak for many of us, including the other admins, that we ourselves do not take any responsibility for the crime itself and are in no way morally or legally tied to the situation. What has happened here is an unfortunate situation resulting from two young women who took this too far. Many individuals on this site have been here for months or years and have never had a problem with anything Slender Man related. Sure, many users create false posts and fictional blogs pretending to be having their own Slender Man adventure, but to the knowledge of the admin team, we are unable to determine who is and who isn't serious about what they type, and we also lack any legal ability and right to investigate into a persons life. If your child uses this website, please check their posts, their blogs, and any activity they use on this site. You may do so by clicking their username or IP address in the top right corner of the page and clicking Blog for blogs and Contributions for posts, edits, and so forth. Such as Catcher in the Rye convinced a man to kill another, and Doom supposedly inspired a shooting, Slender Man is, himself, a victim in this as well. The mythos isn't responsible for who lets their children use this website, and we have clearly stated in our ToS, as has wikia in their ToU, that we do not allow users under the age of 13 to utilize the website, but we also have no direct ability to discern anyones age whatsoever unless said user states their age.

    If you are a parent who is worried about the potential for Slender Man to scare their child, cause their child to act out, or worried that their child could try to "become a proxy", I strongly urge you to block this wiki's url from your browser and disallow your child any and all access to this site altogether. We all love a good scare, but any real violence is not funny.

    I appreciate you taking the time to fully read this post through, and do you hope that you can have a good day.


    ADDENDUM:

    As expected people are coming to the wiki and insulting users, the mythos, and attacking the wiki demanding it be shut down.

    This wiki has no intention whatsoever to shut itself down. The Slender Man Wiki, the Creepypasta Wiki, any wiki's that host Slender Man information have been given no requirement to shut down, and I know I will not shut it down due to this incident.

    Victor Surge will not be arrested. He had nothing to do with the stabbings, and authors cannot be held responsible for people taking their writing too far and killing. He has done nothing wrong, and will be just fine.

    Also, this wiki's rules did not get shut down. I would like to remind everyone that religious references, stating Slender Man is fake, and all other ToS rules are still in effect and will be enforced. We didn't lost them due to this. The only thread that is an exception to the Fake rule is this one.

    Finally, comments insulting the wiki, calling people here sick, demanding the wiki be shut down, or anything directly negative against the wiki are still against the rules, and will be deleted.

    ADDENDUM: I am happy to report that the victim, whose name has been withheld from the public, appears to have nearly fully recovered from the attack, and is on her way home. We here at the Slender Man Wiki sincerely hope that she will be able to move on from this incident, both physically and mentally. Incidents like this can leave lasting emotional scars, and for good reason, so, while there is a good chance she nor her family is reading this, we do deeply wish for a full recovery, and that nothing like this would ever happen to you or anyone ever again. We do fully promise Slender Man has never been intended to be an icon of murder. His intention is to be scary. The goal of Slender Man is to escape him, run away, not see him, fear his presence. Slender Man has never been an icon for murder or killing, and no major Slender Man series ever depict him as that. He is a scary monster, like Freddy Krueger, the aliens from the Alien franchise, a monster from Silent Hill, or even Kayako from The Grudge. That's all. We aren't releasing these statements for good PR, we legitimately do feel bad this situation came to pass, and even though none of us bear any connection to your situation, we still want to let you and others know that this isn't what Slender Man is, and shouldn't be.

    A speedy recovery to the poor girl, and hopes that getting the hard part out of the way now can be smooth sailings and years up in the hundreds.

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    • If this happened in Germany, BILD would have already start a witch- hunt against Slender Man and all fans on the mythos. Its sad how people take such things as excuse for crimes, ruining it for the others.

      I'm sorry for the victim and her family, though.

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    • What the? I am very mindblown. 
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    • This is terrible...

      What people would do for him...

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    • Even if you do believe in him, even if you think he is real, no sane person would go that far.

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    • Thank you Fobar, I'm glad that we had this announcement.

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    • Well said Fob, well said.

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    • This is revolting. Why any person, let alone 12 year-olds would do this and blame it on a monster which we have no evidence to support its existence is beyond me, but I do hope that C will make through.

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    • There is a fine line between fact and fiction. These 12-year olds let the fiction become their reality, and THIS happens! This isn't something that'll blow over in a matter of days: it'll be more like a month, maybe. Or longer.

      Until then, we must keep something in mind: whether you believe in Him or not, killing someone just to meet the popular entity will only end badly for you.

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    • Wow..Very very shocking..

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    • 70.226.170.98 wrote:
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      Hi there. I just would like to say that this is the sort of mindset that we were worried some people would have. Slenderman is simply an urban legend, a scary campfire story to tell online. Like a book about bigfoot or Bloody Mary or ghosts, we talk about Slenderman in a serious way because we, as the community, believe it is something worth talking about. But, also like a campfire story, most people realize that it is just a ghost story and not at all real. This is a tragedy, but we feel as though the fault here lied in the stability of the alleged attackers and the inproper supervision they recieved from those who oversee their wellbeing. It should also be noted that Slenderman is not notably intended for a younger audience, however factors outside of our control have targeted primarily that audience with Slenderman media. We explicitly say in our ToS that we do not condone the use of this wiki for children under 13, and we are not intending for children to read our wiki. I can not speak for other wikis such as the Creepypasta wiki, but I can speak for this one when I say that we, as purveyors of information on the Slenderman and the surrounding mythos, are not responsible for the actions of those who believed a fiction to be a reality.

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    • (Checks Detectivep's profile) Wait... are you the founder?

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    • DetectiveP wrote:
      70.226.170.98 wrote:
      REMOVED RESPONSE, RESPONSE INSINUATING REMOVING WEBSITE
      Hi there. I just would like to say that this is the sort of mindset that we were worried some people would have. Slenderman is simply an urban legend, a scary campfire story to tell online. Like a book about bigfoot or Bloody Mary or ghosts, we talk about Slenderman in a serious way because we, as the community, believe it is something worth talking about. But, also like a campfire story, most people realize that it is just a ghost story and not at all real. This is a tragedy, but we feel as though the fault here lied in the stability of the alleged attackers and the inproper supervision they recieved from those who oversee their wellbeing. It should also be noted that Slenderman is not notably intended for a younger audience, however factors outside of our control have targeted primarily that audience with Slenderman media. We explicitly say in our ToS that we do not condone the use of this wiki for children under 13, and we are not intending for children to read our wiki. I can not speak for other wikis such as the Creepypasta wiki, but I can speak for this one when I say that we, as purveyors of information on the Slenderman and the surrounding mythos, are not responsible for the actions of those who believed a fiction to be a reality.

      I can speak for Creepypasta. Our ToS states thirteen, and we as admins there have always made it a point to say that the known pastas and legends, including this one, are fictional, and not to be taken seriously. We have multiple disclaimers on our site and have even commented and discussed with users who have believed it and informed them that it is not real.

      On another note, thank you, Fobar, for writing this. I must also say, if you guys here are interested, there is a fundraiser ongoing for support of the victim and her family. It can be found here.

      EDIT: Ignore the link. Just got word it's possibly a scam.

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    • What?!

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    • SCAM?!? Oh crap... I hope that's not true.

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    • DETECTIVE P IS ACTIVE AGAIN?!?! OMG

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    • I'm one of the writers for Creepypasta, and already I'm getting crap about this. *Sigh* I won't bother repeating what was written above or the statement that was written on Creepypasta, since it already shows my belief about all of this.

      You don't kill people  for something you've read about that's fiction...common sense.

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    • we must all die

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    • Jjtninja wrote:
      I'm one of the writers for Creepypasta, and already I'm getting crap about this. *Sigh* I won't bother repeating what was written above or the statement that was written on Creepypasta, since it already shows my belief about all of this.

      You don't kill people  for something you've read about that's fiction...common sense.

      Yeah right, because killing for a evil monster that actually exists would make so much more sense...

      Seriously, even if someone would believe in Slender Man (I, for my part believe in ghosts, so I can't blame them) it would be no reason to kill at all. These girls are somehow psychological damaged and it's just ridiculus to blame Slender Man, this Wiki or even it's Users. Did anyone ever blamed the little green imps who told people to set things on fire? Did anyone ever tried to blame Cthulhu because some Lovecraft- Fans killed for him? No. They sued god, though...

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    • I'm honestly quite sickened by this. I'm not an expert in this, but the minds of 12 year olds or lesser are vulnerable and susceptible to such an intense and terrifying lore, especially if it starts spreading out and become a large popular like the Cthulhu Mythos where there are actual cults. I personally blame the parents for not advising these two girls.

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    • @Dae I was about to ask why the heck 2 12 year olds were on the computer none the less THE CREEPY PASTA WIKIA for what appears to be MONTHS. Why did the parents not do anything to stop them from reaching the website? Did they just not care?!?!

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    • Grey Cross wrote:
      @Dae I was about to ask why the heck 2 12 year olds were on the computer none the less THE CREEPY PASTA WIKIA for what appears to be MONTHS. Why did the parents not do anything to stop them from reaching the website? Did they just not care?!?!

      Kids watch horror all the time. You'd be surprised. The parents didn't know their kids thought it was real.

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    • Grey Cross wrote:
      @Dae I was about to ask why the heck 2 12 year olds were on the computer none the less THE CREEPY PASTA WIKIA for what appears to be MONTHS. Why did the parents not do anything to stop them from reaching the website? Did they just not care?!?!

      Officials promised to moderate and monitor them, but never did. So the parents slacked thinking they didn't have to do their jobs. That's not an excuse in my book though.

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    • Well yeah, Pyro... I know that, but I would think the parents would have NOTICED that it was taking a mental toll.

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    • Guys, help, moron using caps lock and blaming all of us

      http://theslenderman.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:58790#26

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    • A psychiatrist  called Laura Davies, who works with children, adolescents and adults, said sometimes two children can fall into a syndrom called folie a deux, in which two people can share a delusional idea, she stated,"This is clearly psychotic, not necessarily both of them are psychotic, but at least one of them has to be psychotic for this to occur."

      From what's been published about the case so far, she added: "This is explicitly not a Internet problem. There's a lot of things I don't like about the Internet, and I'm a big fan of limiting screen time ... but this is an issue of, (one of these girls) is really, really way more than troubled."

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    • Honestly these girls have no excuses for what they did, if they get life in prison then good. Then they start pointing fingers at this wiki and the creepypasta wiki, anyone who does more than 2 seconds of reaserch would know that they shouldn't be on the site. The blame should fall on the parents who weren't paying enough attention and the kids who stabed her.

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    • Here's the thing, and Fob brought this up: Parents need to start doing their job. Wikia has the 13+ rule for a reason, and this site enforces it for that reason.

      I'm horrified this is happening and wish people would realize it's not our faults. Any stimuli could have brought this to happen, not just the urban legend of Slendy. 

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    • Im not sure how to respond to this...

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    • As a Slenderman Mythos fan and Creepypasta fan, I am deeply, deeply saddened by this event. I have been deeply saddened since I first heard about it, and the little girl who was stabbed has been in my thoughts every day since then.

      I want to point out that anyone who uses fiction as an excuse for crime is clearly troubled, and needs to seek help. Slenderman is nothing more than a scary story, nothing more than fun that these two troubled young women clearly took too far. The entire Slenderfan community is horribly shaken by this, as is the Creepypasta fan community.

      Please, people. Read and watch what your kids do online. Be aware of what content they consume. If you have any concerns about what your child is reading, doing, or watching online, you, the parent, need to be the one to block that content from your child's viewing.

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    • 172.0.246.144 wrote:
      As a Slenderman Mythos fan and Creepypasta fan, I am deeply, deeply saddened by this event. I have been deeply saddened since I first heard about it, and the little girl who was stabbed has been in my thoughts every day since then.

      I want to point out that anyone who uses fiction as an excuse for crime is clearly troubled, and needs to seek help. Slenderman is nothing more than a scary story, nothing more than fun that these two troubled young women clearly took too far. The entire Slenderfan community is horribly shaken by this, as is the Creepypasta fan community.

      Please, people. Read and watch what your kids do online. Be aware of what content they consume. If you have any concerns about what your child is reading, doing, or watching online, you, the parent, need to be the one to block that content from your child's viewing.

      Well, we don't allow people to say he doesn't exist because people start fights if you do. To many people come to this wiki claiming they saw him. Heck, even I at one point kept thinking I was seeing glimpses of him in the reflection of the window on my school bus.

      Also, role playing is allowed, and since role playing is basically play pretend, there's no telling who here actually believes in him and who's just pretending.

      The creepypasta wiki is the one getting the blame, and they state that they believe everything on the wiki to be fictional multiple times.

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    • To be honest, I'd rather know what the girl (the Victim) and her parents think who's fault it is. I have yet to hear who they blame.

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    • That's a very good point!! We haven't heard anything from the families!!

      Also, a shooting just happened up in Canada, too. The news have been covering an awful lot of killings lately.

      ... yet many much worse murders receive no attention at all.

      Well, the suspect is still at large for that one.

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    • Yeah. The guy dressed as rambo and shot people. I'm quite saddened by the whole affair.

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    • Lord Dalek wrote:
      Yeah. The guy dressed as rambo and shot people. I'm quite saddened by the whole affair.


      So now the poor Rambo fans are in for it... ugh

      (actually if they don't get a bunch of people blaming Rambo or at least media violence, I'm going to be ticked about the unequal treatment here!!!)

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    • Well, because Slender Man has the potential to be god of some cult. He is kinda Lovecraftian after all. People want to be aware of that.

      The almost sad and almost funny thing is, it will give us more Users. Even in Germany the event is one of the top topics. People who never knew aout him will start to research and end up on this page. The problem is, that these girls might kicked a pebble which might result in an avalanche.

      I mean, sure, they had no clue 'bout nothing, but I'm sure there are already cultists of Slender Man around the world who think their time has come...

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    • This is one of the top topics in Germany right now? Heh...I don't know whether to say that's strange or just ironic, since after all the the Folktale Der Grobsman started there. (And that came out long before Slenderman ever came to be.)

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    • I know. But hey, an almost- murder and a scapegoat, no one in this country could ignore that. German news papers love Scapegoats.

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    • When I was a child, I always had someone keeping an eye on what sites I went to. It saved me a ton of trouble early on. But the parents of the stabbers, should have asked more questions to the 'officials' regaurding what sites their children were going to. While I'm new to the Slender Man and Creepy Pasta wikis, I've used Wikia as a starting point for my research, for a few years now. Wikia, and the Admins/Mods/Users are not to blame at all. Blaming Slender Man, and the Slender Man Wiki, is just ridiculous. The media should be looking closer to home concerning the two stabbers, and the victim, instead of blaming a website. I mean, how ridiculous can you get?

      While I am aware that Slenderman does not actually exist, I would not use him, or even Alucard from the Hellsing Ultimate anime series, as an excuse for murder. What kind of extracirrucular activites did the girls have? What gave them so much spare time to look into Slendy at such a young age? Who, among the mass media, and the horde of shocked and confused people, is thinking about those two questions? Right now, it doesn't seem as though anybody is, except for those looking at this with a clear head.

      So let me put this in plain Engrish: Site Not At Fault. Look At Home And School Lives More. Sound good?

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    • We all argue about how we all agree.

      Humans are so much fun.... *Eats an apple*

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    • Well, even the upbringing may have had nothing to do with it. Reporters are finding that the girls had good upbringings.

      You can't always blame the parents for what their kids do.

      "Good wombs have borne bad sons"

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    • Bad daughters, in this case. However, does someone else find it strange that kids with serious headcases are treated like they were sane, adult persons? I bet conspiracy theorists will tear these guys apart as hell.

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    • Implord wrote:
      Bad daughters, in this case. However, does someone else find it strange that kids with serious headcases are treated like they were sane, adult persons? I bet conspiracy theorists will tear these guys apart as hell.

      Actually, there's little to no evidence they had a mental illness.

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    • I read somewhere that their psychologist diagnosted at least one of them with a rather nasty mental illness, if not both. The girl they are sure about was the one to lead the attemted murder. She told her friend to "really tick out" or something by stabbing the victim.

      Also, I consider everyone who tries to sacrifice people to demons in order to become a slave with no own will or purpose, as a job for the men in white.

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    • ^

      What he said

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    • I also want to add, that, even if they would be sane, they still are no adults.

      By the time, how did they got a knife you can stab people with? If they were so good parents, they would take care that objects to be used as weapons are out of the childs reach.

      And please answer in a more serious way than 'MURICA, because this is not the only Wiki this topic is dicussed and I heard enough MURICA about this in the german Wikis.

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    • Implord wrote:
      I also want to add, that, even if they would be sane, they still are no adults.

      By the time, how did they got a knife you can stab people with? If they were so good parents, they would take care that objects to be used as weapons are out of the childs reach.

      And please answer in a more serious way than 'MURICA, because this is not the only Wiki this topic is dicussed and I heard enough MURICA about this in the german Wikis.

      Getting hold of a knife isn't that hard. Even good parents keep steak knives somewhere where a 12 year old can reach. They simply don't see it as a weapon anymore, but a kitchen utensil, and thus see no reason to lock them away as one would do a gun.

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    • Exactly, knives aren't considered weapons. Heck, for most camps girls are required to bring a pocket knife because it's also a survival tool

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    • Yeah, right. I'm just used to our german "Quality Knives" which could not cut my finger if my freaking live depended on it...

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    • Well there's a German company that makes good chefs knives

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    • Okay we should stop talking about knives before we get off topic

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    • Well, there IS quality work in Germany. We sell it into other countrys :D

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    • Yeah, I have a little fantasy model of a pegasus made in Germany... on top of the detail and realism they even bothered to add the little detail of it clearly being male

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    • Once I have the money to do so, I'm off scandinavia...

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    • Yeah, we're getting off topic.

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    • Alright, but the topic- discussion is running in beautifull circles.

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    • Oh wait so one of you is from Germany and the other Scandinavian. 

      Wow, I didn't think news like this would reach that far.

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    • I'm not Scandinavian! He's German and said he wants to move to Scandinavia.

      The news eachred far because of internet.

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    • Sorry, my mistake.

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    • I in no way condone what these girls have done and i most definatley wish that they stay in prison/loony bin. But i beileve it is entirely plausable that these girls thought those things. Ive been on this site for years now and back in its ay i came across many Many users whom beileved that they could gain the favor of slendy in some way shape or form. I always tried to discorage them and talk them down and after a few weeks of getting to know a few it all turned out to be an escape from their lives. In some cases it was bullies, in others it was abusive parents. These were good people put in very bad situatons. The real question we should be asking is what was their home and school lifes like? surely they did not just wish the favor of slendy as a trophy, they wanted it as an escape from reality which i can completely understand. All throught school no matter the grade i was ridiculed mocked and even beaten at points, my wrist was even fractured at one point a few years back. I tell you this because its the reason i found this site. I wanted the slendermans favor to lash back out at society...but one day i found the chat feature and suddenly i was introduced to fun amazing people who i to this day still love. JJ, Dae, Fob, Kiba, Comp, Crow, Dawn, Rouge, and many others. They made me see the good in this world and in others, so i guess my whole argument is this: If you shut this site down, things will only get worse. If not for you guys i would be in the exact same posision as these girls. 

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    • News reporters found that their home lives were great.

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    • PyroGothNerd wrote:
      News reporters found that their home lives were great.

      They don't seem too shocked by the stabbing, so.

      P.S.: The thread's number is 66666, creepy.

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    • FrenchTouch wrote:
      PyroGothNerd wrote:
      News reporters found that their home lives were great.
      They don't seem too shocked by the stabbing, so.

      P.S.: The thread's number is 66666, creepy.

      I KNOW RIGHT?! XD I shared the thread somewhere on Facebook, and the link came up as "thread: 66666", and I was like, "Oh, um, this is awkward."

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    • Well, maybe we should close the top--*devil summons and burn my face*

      Maybe we hould continue talking on it. FOREVER.s

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    • Okay, someone keeps putting a page up, using variations of the title "Second path to proxy" where the jerk clearly references the stabbings, and then describes a so called way to become Slenderman's proxy (and keeps calling him Slender)

      The page has been removed several times, but he puts it back up under a new account every time

      I even wrote a blog about how ticked I am at this guy to vent (and make it clear to newcomers that the page is not being embraced)

      It's freaking disgusting that someone would do that! On top of that, he seems to think he can put up whatever so long as it's Slenderman related.

      Something like this happened on the creepypasta wiki, but with a different approach (the user who uploaded that story was banned and an announcment was made stating it would not be tolerated)

      Can we just all agree this is unacceptable, and keep an eye out for whenever he tries again?

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    • AMEN to that. 

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    • I'll offer my support.

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    • Me too.

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    • PyroGothNerd wrote: Okay, someone keeps putting a page up, using variations of the title "Second path to proxy" where the jerk clearly references the stabbings, and then describes a so called way to become Slenderman's proxy (and keeps calling him Slender)

      The page has been removed several times, but he puts it back up under a new account every time

      I even wrote a blog about how ticked I am at this guy to vent (and make it clear to newcomers that the page is not being embraced)

      It's freaking disgusting that someone would do that! On top of that, he seems to think he can put up whatever so long as it's Slenderman related.

      Something like this happened on the creepypasta wiki, but with a different approach (the user who uploaded that story was banned and an announcment was made stating it would not be tolerated)

      Can we just all agree this is unacceptable, and keep an eye out for whenever he tries again?

      Proves that people can be real messed up.

      PyroGothNerd wrote:
      News reporters found that their home lives were great.


      Could you tell me how awkward it is that the URL of this peculiar message is Thread:66666#66 ?

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    • Nope, no paramter for awkwardness.

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    • Internet can't compute the awkwardness of the message :)

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    • Even the internet got it's limits.

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    • Sky is the limit.

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    • The end of our fantasy is the only limit.

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    • 2012 is the only limit T-T

      Wait a sec... we're in 2014 ?!

      F-ing bunker.

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    • Guys, people are actually buying the second path to proxy bullcrap

      http://theslenderman.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:68619

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    • It's likely just the same person as the page creator.

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    • Yeah, that's what I'm starting to think.

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    • That's a LITTLE bit totally messed up.

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    • Why can't stupidity be illegal? I mean, yes, it's against human rights to judge people by their bith given abillity of using their brain, but you wouldn't let a pyromaniac become chemistry teacher, would you?

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      Why can't stupidity be illegal? I mean, yes, it's against human rights to judge people by their bith given abillity of using their brain, but you wouldn't let a pyromaniac become chemistry teacher, would you?


      THAT WOULD BE AWESOME!!!!

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    • It might be enough if people have to test their intelligence before they get some jobs where an idiot could do damage.

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    • It is impossible to outlaw stupidity though, since even the most intelligent people do stupid things sometimes.

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    • I would be illegal T_T

      THIG LIEF 4 EVAR

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    • PyroGothNerd wrote:
      It is impossible to outlaw stupidity though, since even the most intelligent people do stupid things sometimes.

      As I said, it's also wrong from a moralistic point of view. But it would be sooooo much fun to live in a world without idiots who're giving me headaches...

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    • B-b-b...but... me ?

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    • You don't give me headaches. What I meant is the annoying kind of stupid.

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    • We can't ban annoying, either.

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    • Menno...

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    • PyroGothNerd wrote:
      We can't ban annoying, either.

      Depends where you are.

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    • Where can you be banned for being annoyed?

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    • Implord, there is no rules of the internet for banning. If a site wants to ban you they do not have to give a reason, but good sites won't because good sites have rules. Bad sites have corrupt admins.

      Also, the main message at the top of this thread has been updated.

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    • It was a rethoric question. Also, I know that you are an great Admin.

      About the Update, I can just join those who wish the victim the best of luck. I also hope, that the culprits can be cured from their mental dísease and that, one day, they might be friends again.

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    • Okay, here's my opinion.:


      No one really cares if Slenderman was real or not. Heck, no one could prove if he's fake or not, but it doesn't change the fact these girls used his name and stabbed their bestfriend.

      So, before you say he's fictional or real, you better have proof if he is. The problem is that we are not aware what lurks behind our shadows.

      I, too, sympathize and feel sorry for what happened to the victim. Not all scary people don't have their back story, to be honest.

      Even if he's real, he, too, would feel sorry of what happened. 


      If you know he's fictional, then don't repeat it. Because it would prove that you're lying. This is the same with people who think he's real. I believe you would know what I typed here.

      And about those Slender dreams, he only needs therapy, not rub in to that person that he's fake. You know when someone dreams, there could be a possibility it would happen,

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    • Well you're right. Technically we shouldn't even give a crap about the fact Slenderman's real or fictional, but about the fact that people get stabbed by little girls. That might be fucked up, but this is reality.

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    • People get stabbed by little girls. It's not much different than getting stabbed by adults, with the difference, that adults can calculate the consequences.

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    • There are little girls, which means their parents will have to assume this all the rest of their lives. Which means that they will feel responsible until they die.

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    • I hate it when parents are so busy, blaming themselves for their children misfortune but do nothing against it. If they act as I wish them to, they will do their very best to get thier kids out of the prison and into the psychatry.

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    • They are not responsible, but they still could prevent this.

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      Seriously?

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      Do you even realize what we're talking about, here? That has nothing to do with the discussion.

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    • Such stupidity from a kid who can't understand how important is the topic of our discussion.

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    • Or just didn't read the topic

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    • That is still stupidity. This is about a tragic accident. An important event, not some little Teletubbies exposition. It might be offending, but yes, this is stupid.

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    • I was suprised when I first heard about this it's crazy

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    • Completely. I'm asking how people can go this far.

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    • Psychological Damage.

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    • Uh uh. Human beings are just very stupid at times.

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    • i feel sorry for the girl  and her family but why would someone take it to this level we all know slender man isnt real it just a character the internet that we like to have fun with and discuss about people obvusly made the slender man mythos for fun its supposed to be scary not serious  

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    • Careful, we're not allowed to say he's not real on the wiki because people start fights over it.

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    • In this thread, however, we're allowing it only due to the seriousness of the topic. 

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    • Nobody should be blamed except the comitters of this stabbing. But that's not how their parents act. They blame everyone of us for the crimes of their children. Can you imagine ? We're blamed because we can't educate THEIR children.

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    • Fobarimperius wrote:
      In this thread, however, we're allowing it only due to the seriousness of the topic. 


      Good call.

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    • So a Slenderman page posted this today... (notice the killers are dead on the tree)

      10411235 10152540601715692 3933512698859642892 n
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    • That sums it up.

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    • The more you wage hatred against those two girls, the names are well known by the time, but I'll just go with "the girls", the more I start to think that this is a case without actual fault. It was a chain of unfortunate events  and facts.

      Mental Issues + Reading the wrong storys = Tragical Event

      Tragical Event + Internet= Hatred and lots of Memes and cartoons

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    • I don't think they actually had mental illness, though.

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    • Murder is not just a crime but also against our nature. A planned murder cannot be carried out by a sane person. All murders comitted by sane persons were results from circumstances, where the persons abillity to endure massive stress were overtaxed. Since this was not the case, the mental state of the girls is not in question.

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    • No, not murdering is a taught behavior. We are taught that violence is wrong. If you watch tiny children, they hit without remorse quite a bit.

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    • Well, it's right, that they don't understand the whole concept of pain. However, they intend to have their will obeyed by force. These girls tried to commit a sacrifice to a monster. Not only, that little kids would never intend to kill someone, no, even two year olds would not kill their friends for god oder something, not if their parents did not misrais them to a point of insanity.

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    • What about little kids who torture and kill animals?

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    • Yeah, right, how could I forget about those totally sane fellas...

      No, wait.

      Torturing is a action, where person A hurts a being B, mainly just for the purpose of creating pain. If not for an other purpose, the act of enjoying the pain of others is pure sadism and therefore a mental disturbance.

      However, little kids tend to play with animals because they are over curious and not able to understand, what they are doing to the animal. However, there is not evil intention behind it, no grudge against the enemy and no joy about inflicting pain. This was not the case here, not only because these girls where already pretty much beyond the age of dissecting spiders, but also, because they tried to kill for the purpose of a sacrifice, which is something, as you will agree, a toddler won't do.

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      Yeah, right, how could I forget about those totally sane fellas...

      No, wait.

      Torturing is a action, where person A hurts a being B, mainly just for the purpose of creating pain. If not for an other purpose, the act of enjoying the pain of others is pure sadism and therefore a mental disturbance.

      However, little kids tend to play with animals because they are over curious and not able to understand, what they are doing to the animal. However, there is not evil intention behind it, no grudge against the enemy and no joy about inflicting pain. This was not the case here, not only because these girls where already pretty much beyond the age of dissecting spiders, but also, because they tried to kill for the purpose of a sacrifice, which is something, as you will agree, a toddler won't do.

      I'm talking about children who actually grab a knife and cut the animals up.

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      Do you even realize what we're talking about, here? That has nothing to do with the discussion. 

      Sorry,just trying to point something out,that possibly everyone was thinking,but enough about that.

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    • We're trying to talk about a serious matter. Your comment had nothing to do with anything.

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    • PyroGothNerd wrote:
      We're trying to talk about a serious matter. Your comment had nothing to do with anything.

      Very well then, what I have to say this stabbing tragedy I say we just let it pass, it was a event,events happen even if it is hard to forget we have to let it slide. (if you already have then,sorry I wasn't aware.) May the Victim have a great recovery over this terrible event. 


      "AND WHEN IT'S ALL SAID AND DONE WE WILL STILL BE HERE TO HAUNT YOUR DREAMS BUT,LEARN FROM WHAT YOU HAVE SEEN TODAY."

      -HABIT,Jun 3rd

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    • That's the problem...if we forget it, then it will be more likely to happen again. We can't just ignore what's happening. That's why there's history classes, to prevent history from being repeated.

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    • PyroGothNerd wrote:
      That's the problem...if we forget it, then it will be more likely to happen again. We can't just ignore what's happening. That's why there's history classes, to prevent history from being repeated.

      I suppose you have a point,very well then say what you will, of course I can't stop you. But I don't mean ignore, I mean let what has already happen go.

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    • We will...once the media does....which may never happen

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    • PyroGothNerd wrote:
      We will...once the media does....which may never happen

      The media always rehashes the incidents that happen a while back. For example, the Yarnell fires in my home state Arizona. Even though that happened over a year ago, the media decides it's a great time to bring it back up for those who've already forgot about it. I don't think this will ever stop being brought up any time soon.

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    • PyroGothNerd wrote:
      We will...once the media does....which may never happen

      Well...shit,that's a shame. But I don't really pay attention to the "media", whatever that is.

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    • Evan 333 wrote:
      PyroGothNerd wrote:
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      Well...shit,that's a shame. But I don't really pay attention to the "media", whatever that is.

      Uh...bro? Your message appeared like 3 other times.

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    • Horizons are Limited wrote:
      Evan 333 wrote:
      PyroGothNerd wrote:
      We will...once the media does....which may never happen
      Well...shit,that's a shame. But I don't really pay attention to the "media", whatever that is.
      Uh...bro? Your message appeared like 3 other times.


      Stuff like that happens on the web sometimes XD

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    • Horizons are Limited wrote:
      PyroGothNerd wrote:
      We will...once the media does....which may never happen
      The media always rehashes the incidents that happen a while back. For example, the Yarnell fires in my home state Arizona. Even though that happened over a year ago, the media decides it's a great time to bring it back up for those who've already forgot about it. I don't think this will ever stop being brought up any time soon.

      Well this "media" sounds like a sack of shit.

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    • PyroGothNerd wrote:
      Horizons are Limited wrote:
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      PyroGothNerd wrote:
      We will...once the media does....which may never happen
      Well...shit,that's a shame. But I don't really pay attention to the "media", whatever that is.
      Uh...bro? Your message appeared like 3 other times.

      Stuff like that happens on the web sometimes XD

      You had to know more than...once,yeah that's my half-ass excuse.

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    • Evan 333 wrote:
      Horizons are Limited wrote:
      PyroGothNerd wrote:
      We will...once the media does....which may never happen
      The media always rehashes the incidents that happen a while back. For example, the Yarnell fires in my home state Arizona. Even though that happened over a year ago, the media decides it's a great time to bring it back up for those who've already forgot about it. I don't think this will ever stop being brought up any time soon.
      Well this "media" sounds like a sack of shit.

      Media...like newspapers and news shows and anything else on Tv or in magazines?

      But yeah, stuff like that happens. They're like "100 years later, boy still missing without a trace" WHAT ARE WE SUPPOSED TO DO 100 YEARS LATER?!? HE'S DEAD, AND SO IS WHO EVER KIDNAPPED HIM!"

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    • Sorry if were going off topic,but what's this "media"?

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    • Definition of media (n)

      Bing Dictionary

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      Definition: television, newspapers, and radio collectively: the various means of mass communication considered as a whole, including television, radio, magazines, and newspapers, together with the people involved in their production

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      ==Definition of media (n)==

      Bing Dictionary

      • me·di·a
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      Definition: television, newspapers, and radio collectively: the various means of mass communication considered as a whole, including television, radio, magazines, and newspapers, together with the people involved in their production

      Thank's.

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    • So uh...what's the latest news about the victim?,how's she doing? 

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    • Well, I heard she's recovering.

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    • PyroGothNerd wrote:
      Well, I heard she's recovering.

      Well that's good. I think we have enter the stage were we don't have much to talk about.

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    • PyroGothNerd wrote:
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      Yeah, right, how could I forget about those totally sane fellas...

      No, wait.

      Torturing is a action, where person A hurts a being B, mainly just for the purpose of creating pain. If not for an other purpose, the act of enjoying the pain of others is pure sadism and therefore a mental disturbance.

      However, little kids tend to play with animals because they are over curious and not able to understand, what they are doing to the animal. However, there is not evil intention behind it, no grudge against the enemy and no joy about inflicting pain. This was not the case here, not only because these girls where already pretty much beyond the age of dissecting spiders, but also, because they tried to kill for the purpose of a sacrifice, which is something, as you will agree, a toddler won't do.

      I'm talking about children who actually grab a knife and cut the animals up.


      Well, they are not sane at all. I wil try to make my point clear:

      Sane kids: Might accidently kill an insect by playing with it, won't try to murder you in your sleep.

      Insane kids: Cut up mices to see them suffer, sacrifice their friends to Slender Man, hide your homeworks, might kill you once you turned your back on them and... Oh, yes, if they appear in a Alice- in- Wonderland game, they are creepy as F**k. Coming to think of it, they are creepy anyway.

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    • Implord wrote:
      PyroGothNerd wrote:
      Implord wrote:
      Yeah, right, how could I forget about those totally sane fellas...

      No, wait.

      Torturing is a action, where person A hurts a being B, mainly just for the purpose of creating pain. If not for an other purpose, the act of enjoying the pain of others is pure sadism and therefore a mental disturbance.

      However, little kids tend to play with animals because they are over curious and not able to understand, what they are doing to the animal. However, there is not evil intention behind it, no grudge against the enemy and no joy about inflicting pain. This was not the case here, not only because these girls where already pretty much beyond the age of dissecting spiders, but also, because they tried to kill for the purpose of a sacrifice, which is something, as you will agree, a toddler won't do.

      I'm talking about children who actually grab a knife and cut the animals up.

      Well, they are not sane at all. I wil try to make my point clear:

      Sane kids: Might accidently kill an insect by playing with it, won't try to murder you in your sleep.

      Insane kids: Cut up mices to see them suffer, sacrifice their friends to Slender Man, hide your homeworks, might kill you once you turned your back on them and... Oh, yes, if they appear in a Alice- in- Wonderland game, they are creepy as F**k. Coming to think of it, they are creepy anyway.

      Than may them get the...punishment that they deserve!

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    • Evan 333 wrote:
      Implord wrote:
      PyroGothNerd wrote:
      Implord wrote:
      Yeah, right, how could I forget about those totally sane fellas...

      No, wait.

      Torturing is a action, where person A hurts a being B, mainly just for the purpose of creating pain. If not for an other purpose, the act of enjoying the pain of others is pure sadism and therefore a mental disturbance.

      However, little kids tend to play with animals because they are over curious and not able to understand, what they are doing to the animal. However, there is not evil intention behind it, no grudge against the enemy and no joy about inflicting pain. This was not the case here, not only because these girls where already pretty much beyond the age of dissecting spiders, but also, because they tried to kill for the purpose of a sacrifice, which is something, as you will agree, a toddler won't do.

      I'm talking about children who actually grab a knife and cut the animals up.

      Well, they are not sane at all. I wil try to make my point clear:

      Sane kids: Might accidently kill an insect by playing with it, won't try to murder you in your sleep.

      Insane kids: Cut up mices to see them suffer, sacrifice their friends to Slender Man, hide your homeworks, might kill you once you turned your back on them and... Oh, yes, if they appear in a Alice- in- Wonderland game, they are creepy as F**k. Coming to think of it, they are creepy anyway.

      Than may them get the...punishment that they deserve!

      Which is not death. After all, they are sick.

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    • Learning that torture is okay is not sickness!!! Hitler wasn't sick when he did all the crap he did.

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    • PyroGothNerd wrote:
      Learning that torture is okay is not sickness!!! Hitler wasn't sick when he did all the crap he did.

      True, tourture is simply tourture not evil nor good, but it depands on who is using it and who it's being used on,very interesting. but enough about that. 

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    • People, I help out in a nursery every Sunday. They have to learn that hurting other people is wrong.

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    • PyroGothNerd wrote: People, I help out in a nursery every Sunday. They have to learn that hurting other people is wrong.

      ^^^^^^^^

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    • PyroGothNerd wrote:
      Learning that torture is okay is not sickness!!! Hitler wasn't sick when he did all the crap he did.

      Actually, Hitler was mental unstable as hell. Also, torture is never a good thing, but the worst torture has no purpose but to delight the torturer, a sadist.

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      Learning that torture is okay is not sickness!!! Hitler wasn't sick when he did all the crap he did.
      Actually, Hitler was mental unstable as hell. Also, torture is never a good thing, but the worst torture has no purpose but to delight the torturer, a sadist.

      Oh yeah... I forgot he apparently used to change his entire outfit, including his underwear, if he spilled anything on it.

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    • Yeah, plus paranoia, megalomania, iferiority complexes (I still wonder how you can have both)...

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    • What are we talking about now!?

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    • What we are talking about now has nothing to do with the orginal reason this thread was created,it just feels like were going off topic.

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    • Actually Evan, it has to do with whether or not the girls were actually insane. I'm arguing they weren't, and knew full well what they were doing, and Implord is arguing that they were insane and thus didn't fully understand what they were doing.

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    • If people can't stay on topic, don't post. Anyone who derails this conversation, as important as it is, will gain a 1 day ban. I am not kidding around. This is an extremely serious discussion and people are discussing ARG's in the banned comments that are totally unrelated to the discussion.

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    • PyroGothNerd wrote:
      Actually Evan, it has to do with whether or not the girls were actually insane. I'm arguing they weren't, and knew full well what they were doing, and Implord is arguing that they were insane and thus didn't fully understand what they were doing.

      You can have bouts of insanity, but I think that if they were insane they still ARE insane, due to the fact that one of them commented that she felt no remorse. Which may be what Implord is arguing, don't know which he means.

      As for my opinion, I would have to see which definition of insaity is being used.

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    • Corrupt Secrets wrote:
      PyroGothNerd wrote:
      Actually Evan, it has to do with whether or not the girls were actually insane. I'm arguing they weren't, and knew full well what they were doing, and Implord is arguing that they were insane and thus didn't fully understand what they were doing.
      You can have bouts of insanity, but I think that if they were insane they still ARE insane, due to the fact that one of them commented that she felt no remorse. Which may be what Implord is arguing, don't know which he means.

      As for my opinion, I would have to see which definition of insaity is being used.

      Or feeling no remorse could imply selfishness. I feel that the two never actually cared about their "friend" if the girl was the one they chose to kill.

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    • HEY STOP!!! FOB SAID WE CAN'T GO OFF TOPIC ANYMORE!!!

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    • PyroGothNerd wrote:
      Corrupt Secrets wrote:
      PyroGothNerd wrote:
      Actually Evan, it has to do with whether or not the girls were actually insane. I'm arguing they weren't, and knew full well what they were doing, and Implord is arguing that they were insane and thus didn't fully understand what they were doing.
      You can have bouts of insanity, but I think that if they were insane they still ARE insane, due to the fact that one of them commented that she felt no remorse. Which may be what Implord is arguing, don't know which he means.

      As for my opinion, I would have to see which definition of insaity is being used.

      Or feeling no remorse could imply selfishness. I feel that the two never actually cared about their "friend" if the girl was the one they chose to kill.


      @ Corrupt Secrets: Did I ever told ya the definition of insanity? ^^

      @ Pyro: Well, I think we can agree that a person who cares so less about an other person, to a point of feeling no remorse to actions like these, is far away from being sane. Sane people just can't plot murder on long term, at least usually. Murder is, as I already mentioned, not part of our nature. It is either caused by mental issues or a huge amount of stress, overhelming the willstrenght of a person. For example, a sane person might murder a person who killed her/ his kid, but at this point of time, the emotional sate of this person is making it unstable and unreasonable. The same person could not possibly plan a murder to gain money or just delight on long term.

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    • PyroGothNerd wrote:
      HEY STOP!!! FOB SAID WE CAN'T GO OFF TOPIC ANYMORE!!!

      On topic: Discussing mental health, behaviors, murder motives, child psychlogy, etc.

      Off topic: Saying hello and talking about a "proxy" in some ARG (as an example) but in general anything not related to the topic directly.

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    • Thanks for the definition.

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    • Implord wrote:
      PyroGothNerd wrote:
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      PyroGothNerd wrote:
      Actually Evan, it has to do with whether or not the girls were actually insane. I'm arguing they weren't, and knew full well what they were doing, and Implord is arguing that they were insane and thus didn't fully understand what they were doing.
      You can have bouts of insanity, but I think that if they were insane they still ARE insane, due to the fact that one of them commented that she felt no remorse. Which may be what Implord is arguing, don't know which he means.

      As for my opinion, I would have to see which definition of insaity is being used.

      Or feeling no remorse could imply selfishness. I feel that the two never actually cared about their "friend" if the girl was the one they chose to kill.

      @ Corrupt Secrets: Did I ever told ya the definition of insanity? ^^

      @ Pyro: Well, I think we can agree that a person who cares so less about an other person, to a point of feeling no remorse to actions like these, is far away from being sane. Sane people just can't plot murder on long term, at least usually. Murder is, as I already mentioned, not part of our nature. It is either caused by mental issues or a huge amount of stress, overhelming the willstrenght of a person. For example, a sane person might murder a person who killed her/ his kid, but at this point of time, the emotional sate of this person is making it unstable and unreasonable. The same person could not possibly plan a murder to gain money or just delight on long term.

      If it's not part of our nature, how come thousands of people are murdered every day? How come dozens of genocides have occured?

      We may be born with innocent minds, but murder is not beyond us if we can come up with a good excuse to justify ourselves. During history, it was dehumanizing people. For some, it's telling themselves that the victim deserved it. For many, it's claiming that the murder is for the greater good.

      These girls believed that by killing their friend, they could prove Slender Man existed and reap some sort of benefit. Some people will just do anything if it benefits themselves, and those two girls fit into that category. They didn't try to murder that girl because of mental illness. They tried to murder her because they thought that they would be rewarded.

      "Suddenly hating them" is a natural social phenomenon. It's ugly, but it shows others that murdering someone for the sake of Slender Man is horrid, and reminds people that they won't get away with such acts. Informal punishments are often more effective than formal ones.

      I'd highly recomend a sociology class. It can be very eye opening.

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      If it's not part of our nature, how come thousands of people are murdered every day? How come dozens of genocides have occured?

      We may be born with innocent minds, but murder is not beyond us if we can come up with a good excuse to justify ourselves. During history, it was dehumanizing people. For some, it's telling themselves that the victim deserved it. For many, it's claiming that the murder is for the greater good.

      These girls believed that by killing their friend, they could prove Slender Man existed and reap some sort of benefit. Some people will just do anything if it benefits themselves, and those two girls fit into that category. They didn't try to murder that girl because of mental illness. They tried to murder her because they thought that they would be rewarded.

      "Suddenly hating them" is a natural social phenomenon. It's ugly, but it shows others that murdering someone for the sake of Slender Man is horrid, and reminds people that they won't get away with such acts. Informal punishments are often more effective than formal ones.

      I'd highly recomend a sociology class. It can be very eye opening.

      Well, this is going pretty deep. I mostly agree with you. Insanity was not the cause of this, it was a desicion and modern human nature.

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    • PyroGothNerd wrote:
      Implord wrote:
      PyroGothNerd wrote:
      Corrupt Secrets wrote:
      PyroGothNerd wrote:
      Actually Evan, it has to do with whether or not the girls were actually insane. I'm arguing they weren't, and knew full well what they were doing, and Implord is arguing that they were insane and thus didn't fully understand what they were doing.
      You can have bouts of insanity, but I think that if they were insane they still ARE insane, due to the fact that one of them commented that she felt no remorse. Which may be what Implord is arguing, don't know which he means.

      As for my opinion, I would have to see which definition of insaity is being used.

      Or feeling no remorse could imply selfishness. I feel that the two never actually cared about their "friend" if the girl was the one they chose to kill.

      @ Corrupt Secrets: Did I ever told ya the definition of insanity? ^^

      @ Pyro: Well, I think we can agree that a person who cares so less about an other person, to a point of feeling no remorse to actions like these, is far away from being sane. Sane people just can't plot murder on long term, at least usually. Murder is, as I already mentioned, not part of our nature. It is either caused by mental issues or a huge amount of stress, overhelming the willstrenght of a person. For example, a sane person might murder a person who killed her/ his kid, but at this point of time, the emotional sate of this person is making it unstable and unreasonable. The same person could not possibly plan a murder to gain money or just delight on long term.

      If it's not part of our nature, how come thousands of people are murdered every day? How come dozens of genocides have occured?

      We may be born with innocent minds, but murder is not beyond us if we can come up with a good excuse to justify ourselves. During history, it was dehumanizing people. For some, it's telling themselves that the victim deserved it. For many, it's claiming that the murder is for the greater good.

      These girls believed that by killing their friend, they could prove Slender Man existed and reap some sort of benefit. Some people will just do anything if it benefits themselves, and those two girls fit into that category. They didn't try to murder that girl because of mental illness. They tried to murder her because they thought that they would be rewarded.

      "Suddenly hating them" is a natural social phenomenon. It's ugly, but it shows others that murdering someone for the sake of Slender Man is horrid, and reminds people that they won't get away with such acts. Informal punishments are often more effective than formal ones.

      I'd highly recomend a sociology class. It can be very eye opening.


      It is a natural phenomen, that every person has the abillity to kill if they think they do it for a higher goal, yes. That means that soldiers can kill for their nations, it means you can kill the man who wants to murder you, it even means you can sacrifice people for your own gain of power and money. I agree with you. Humans are cruel as hell.

      However, two points you should not forget:

      1. Religious fanatism is not part of this. People who kill for higher beings are usually manipulated, usually they were easy to be influenced. However, those two acted because they'd read something on the internat that did not connect to their actions nor to Slender Man. Thinking that there woud be a reward was no conclussion a perfectly reasonable person could come to.

      2. Also, even if I said it before, psychologists diagnosted BOTH of them to be mentally sick. For example, they had a reality disorder (or how it was called) what means, they could not differ between reality and fiction. Reading Harry Potter could have caused them to run into walls.

      I get your point, that they draw hatred on them and that punishment might prevent such events to happen too often, but for one thing, I feel no hatred against these girls, I pity them. I think they will be locked away for long time anyway, but in prison it won't do any good. Their whole lifes are destroyed and there is no way to change that. That's what makes me sick: They are ruined, it's over for those two, if they are still alive at the time they get out, if they are not killed by other prisoners, die from age and massive stress, hang themselves in their cells or are executed because the gonverment is tired of paying for them or the relaitves and friends of the victim decide to send them poisonous food or whatever, what options would they have left? Two old women who will get no job, no friends, most likely not even a home. If that is not the point they take the "easy way out" they will cripple on the cold street, get into the grips of criminals and credit sharks or become criminal themselves. Technically, they could have killed them as well, at this grade of punishment, they would be better of dead. I don't see why you should even think of worde punishment than death, since death is in my opinion already too much and for I am strictly against death penalty. That this punishment is used against underaged girls with mental issues is just wrong.

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    • or are executed because the gonverment is tired of paying for them or the relaitves and friends of the victim decide to send them poisonous food or whatever,


      Wait wait wait....we don't execute people just because the government is "sick of paying for them" If they weren't sentanced to death, they weren't sentanced to death. That is NOT how it works here.

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    • Not up to now, Pyro. Look at the world, see her develope. Right now, people scream for death sentence for so many people again, because... Well, people are cruel little monsters, aren't they? Anyway, sooner or later they will get the idea to re- sentence criminals. Since USA's prisons are already overloaded at some spaces, it is just a question of time until the first criminals are sentenced to death. However, child murderers, or people who tried to kill children, might die a long time before we reach this point. Did you ever heard about the frog and the hot water?

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      Not up to now, Pyro. Look at the world, see her develope. Right now, people scream for death sentence for so many people again, because... Well, people are cruel little monsters, aren't they? Anyway, sooner or later they will get the idea to re- sentence criminals. Since USA's prisons are already overloaded at some spaces, it is just a question of time until the first criminals are sentenced to death. However, child murderers, or people who tried to kill children, might die a long time before we reach this point. Did you ever heard about the frog and the hot water?


      Most of what you said is against our constituitional rights.

      And yes, I have heard about the frog and the hot water, but there are many of us who will notice.

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      Most of what you said is against our constituitional rights.


      Ah, yes, thing is, I always care so much about rights as those, who made them, do. Just to explain it, in my opinion, based on the fact that a perfect world can not exist, should be an anarchy. Not because I think it would work, in fact, anarchy would bring horrible results if it breaks out, but on a very fundamental base, anarchy is the only form of state, or the lack of it, where everyone would do the things he thinks to be right. I just cant stand it how people hide their own ideas and intentions because society would not accept them and I hate it how persons wh deserve punishment might walk every day free in the daylight because they are too scared to show themselves. This is my opinion about politics. However, as I said, this opinion cannot work because mankind is too far away from perfect or even acceptable. Sorry if this sounds offensive or insane, I don't really know to formulate this in a way that won't let me look like the nihilistic villain of an anime...

      However, I would like to return to our discussion about the mental state of these two girls.

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    • Anarchy is a fundamental impossibility with human nature. Humans will always build social structures, and a social structure cannot exist in any form for anarchy exists.

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    • Long thread is long. :l

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      Yeah I know. Or I don't. 

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    • Fobarimperius wrote:
      Anarchy is a fundamental impossibility with human nature. Humans will always build social structures, and a social structure cannot exist in any form for anarchy exists.

      It's not aout what's possible, it's about what would be fair.

      Anyway, we should retunr to topic.

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    • Implord, you know you can edit a post after you publish it, don't you?

      HOW TO EDIT POST OR COMMENT
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    • PyroGothNerd wrote:
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      Why can't stupidity be illegal? I mean, yes, it's against human rights to judge people by their bith given abillity of using their brain, but you wouldn't let a pyromaniac become chemistry teacher, would you?

      THAT WOULD BE AWESOME!!!!

      Actually, my high school Chem teacher was a bit of a pyro... he showed us how to (safely) engulf our hands in fire

      Now that I think about it, I really wish I'd payed a bit more attention in that class...

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    • Oliver Freed wrote:
      PyroGothNerd wrote:
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      Why can't stupidity be illegal? I mean, yes, it's against human rights to judge people by their bith given abillity of using their brain, but you wouldn't let a pyromaniac become chemistry teacher, would you?

      THAT WOULD BE AWESOME!!!!
      Actually, my high school Chem teacher was a bit of a pyro... he showed us how to (safely) engulf our hands in fire

      Now that I think about it, I really wish I'd payed a bit more attention in that class...

      Well that's good and kinda awesome to hear.

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    • Now, actually pertaining to the topic at hand...

      I actually heard this story through word of mouth, from a friend who'd heard it from a friend and so on. Initially, I laughed at the story, thinking it was too bizarre to be real and was surely some sort of hoax conjured up to incriminate or vilify the creepypasta-loving community or to poke fun at others who pursue creatures such as the Slenderman. When I looked it up and saw that the story was true, I was legitimately shocked. 

      I'm not going to argue either of the attackers' sanity or lack thereof, but I do want to know why they are be charged as adults. As heinous as their acts were, they're only twelve years old, and in no way 'adult'. They aren't even teenagers yet! I've heard of sixteen year olds who get charged as children for successful murders. 

      And have the courts lain any of the blame on the parents/guardians of the girls? Why were those girls able to get into the woods, with knives, without anyone stopping them or accompanying them? Why was their obssession left alone and allowed to get so out of hand? I think people should focus a little more on the parents' role in the event, rather than putting the blame on the internet.

      Anyway, sorry for my rambling... I just had to get those thoughts out....

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    • Oliver Freed wrote:
      Now, actually pertaining to the topic at hand...

      I actually heard this story through word of mouth, from a friend who'd heard it from a friend and so on. Initially, I laughed at the story, thinking it was too bizarre to be real and was surely some sort of hoax conjured up to incriminate or vilify the creepypasta-loving community or to poke fun at others who pursue creatures such as the Slenderman. When I looked it up and saw that the story was true, I was legitimately shocked. 

      I'm not going to argue either of the attackers' sanity or lack thereof, but I do want to know why they are be charged as adults. As heinous as their acts were, they're only twelve years old, and in no way 'adult'. They aren't even teenagers yet! I've heard of sixteen year olds who get charged as children for successful murders. 

      And have the courts lain any of the blame on the parents/guardians of the girls? Why were those girls able to get into the woods, with knives, without anyone stopping them or accompanying them? Why was their obssession left alone and allowed to get so out of hand? I think people should focus a little more on the parents' role in the event, rather than putting the blame on the internet.

      Anyway, sorry for my rambling... I just had to get those thoughts out....

      All fair points

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    • Oliver Freed wrote:
      Now, actually pertaining to the topic at hand...

      I actually heard this story through word of mouth, from a friend who'd heard it from a friend and so on. Initially, I laughed at the story, thinking it was too bizarre to be real and was surely some sort of hoax conjured up to incriminate or vilify the creepypasta-loving community or to poke fun at others who pursue creatures such as the Slenderman. When I looked it up and saw that the story was true, I was legitimately shocked. 

      I'm not going to argue either of the attackers' sanity or lack thereof, but I do want to know why they are be charged as adults. As heinous as their acts were, they're only twelve years old, and in no way 'adult'. They aren't even teenagers yet! I've heard of sixteen year olds who get charged as children for successful murders. 

      And have the courts lain any of the blame on the parents/guardians of the girls? Why were those girls able to get into the woods, with knives, without anyone stopping them or accompanying them? Why was their obssession left alone and allowed to get so out of hand? I think people should focus a little more on the parents' role in the event, rather than putting the blame on the internet.

      Anyway, sorry for my rambling... I just had to get those thoughts out....

      I can do nothing but agree.

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    • Implord wrote:
      Oliver Freed wrote:
      Now, actually pertaining to the topic at hand...

      I actually heard this story through word of mouth, from a friend who'd heard it from a friend and so on. Initially, I laughed at the story, thinking it was too bizarre to be real and was surely some sort of hoax conjured up to incriminate or vilify the creepypasta-loving community or to poke fun at others who pursue creatures such as the Slenderman. When I looked it up and saw that the story was true, I was legitimately shocked. 

      I'm not going to argue either of the attackers' sanity or lack thereof, but I do want to know why they are be charged as adults. As heinous as their acts were, they're only twelve years old, and in no way 'adult'. They aren't even teenagers yet! I've heard of sixteen year olds who get charged as children for successful murders. 

      And have the courts lain any of the blame on the parents/guardians of the girls? Why were those girls able to get into the woods, with knives, without anyone stopping them or accompanying them? Why was their obssession left alone and allowed to get so out of hand? I think people should focus a little more on the parents' role in the event, rather than putting the blame on the internet.

      Anyway, sorry for my rambling... I just had to get those thoughts out....

      I can do nothing but agree.

      I suppose as well.

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    • No trolls or jerks here? Kinda boring.

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    • SHHH!!! You'll jinx it Implord

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    • Implord wrote:
      No trolls or jerks here? Kinda boring.


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    • Evan 333 wrote:
      Implord wrote:
      Oliver Freed wrote:
      Now, actually pertaining to the topic at hand...

      I actually heard this story through word of mouth, from a friend who'd heard it from a friend and so on. Initially, I laughed at the story, thinking it was too bizarre to be real and was surely some sort of hoax conjured up to incriminate or vilify the creepypasta-loving community or to poke fun at others who pursue creatures such as the Slenderman. When I looked it up and saw that the story was true, I was legitimately shocked. 

      I'm not going to argue either of the attackers' sanity or lack thereof, but I do want to know why they are be charged as adults. As heinous as their acts were, they're only twelve years old, and in no way 'adult'. They aren't even teenagers yet! I've heard of sixteen year olds who get charged as children for successful murders. 

      And have the courts lain any of the blame on the parents/guardians of the girls? Why were those girls able to get into the woods, with knives, without anyone stopping them or accompanying them? Why was their obssession left alone and allowed to get so out of hand? I think people should focus a little more on the parents' role in the event, rather than putting the blame on the internet.

      Anyway, sorry for my rambling... I just had to get those thoughts out....

      I can do nothing but agree.
      I suppose as well.

      Agreed.

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    • Evan 333 wrote:
      Implord wrote:
      No trolls or jerks here? Kinda boring.


      Thank you.

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    • Implord wrote:
      Evan 333 wrote:
      Implord wrote:
      No trolls or jerks here? Kinda boring.

      Thank you.

      Your welcome,glad I could help.

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    • I guess that you want to say something like "Didn't I told you", Pyro? ^^

      Anyway, I'm off, having a nice weekend without internet. CU!

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    • Implord wrote:
      I guess that you want to say something like "Didn't I told you", Pyro? ^^

      Anyway, I'm off, having a nice weekend without internet. CU!


      Cute.

      I had a whole week at a camp in the woods with no technology other than my cell phone which I could only use for emergencies and taking pictures.

      ...and then I came home and got right back on the computer, so I guess that week isn't exactly bragging rights.

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    • Good thing I have no cell phone... Oh, wait, that was not the point, right?

      Anyway, when I came back and checked my new messages on wikia and I saw this big, shiny 19, I got a little shock. Seriously!

      And why the hell am I sick now? I have right now no time to!

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    • Please keep it focused here.Ifthere's nothing elseto add, exit and come back when there is.

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    • Or maybe It's time to close the thread? I mean, as long as nothing more happens, we are just warming it up again.

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    • It should have been days ago, since well, it's pretty much over, the victim is going well now, so, we don't have pretty much to worry off.

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    • And if we keep talking, the medias might do as well.

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    • Not really. The girls haven't been tried yet. Once their trial starts, the media will be all over it again.

      Also, people on the wiki lately haven't been helping our case. Some people have been popping up trying to convince us to worship Slenderman and asking how to become proxies.

      Big thumbs up to our lovely admins for blocking those users.

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    • Yeah, without people like Foba and the others, this place would go to the dogs.

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    • I've seen many wikis that have gone to the dogs, but it's usually wikis where people don't contribute as much, or where any user can contribute to any page.

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    • Well, for now, we could simply close the thread, and when they'll get a trial, the wiki will need a new threat only if the medias keep talking about that. But let me tell you something. I'm speaking frankly, that's almost 3 months since it happened, so the medias don't give a sh*t about that anymore. Actually, the journal that has quoted the Creepypasta Wiki talks about bird baby-sitters and their new fashion for piping plovers. What about the bigger ones ? Reuters speaks about Israel, Ukraine and McDonald's. And the New York Times ? The same.

      So clearly, don't worry about the medias. They've moved on and forgot everything about this story at the exact moment we started speaking about it.

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    • FrenchTouch wrote:
      Well, for now, we could simply close the thread, and when they'll get a trial, the wiki will need a new threat only if the medias keep talking about that. But let me tell you something. I'm speaking frankly, that's almost 3 months since it happened, so the medias don't give a sh*t about that anymore. Actually, the journal that has quoted the Creepypasta Wiki talks about bird baby-sitters and their new fashion for piping plovers. What about the bigger ones ? Reuters speaks about Israel, Ukraine and McDonald's. And the New York Times ? The same.

      So clearly, don't worry about the medias. They've moved on and forgot everything about this story at the exact moment we started speaking about it.

      Thank you,sir/madame. and I totally agree with you.

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    • Thanks for sharing your advice too, and if you want to know, I am a gentleman. I don't fit the role of a lady.

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    • This thread is getting pretty long, so that's probably a good idea

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    • Well, seems like we're all OK to close it.

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    • Good.

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    • I'm not closing it. Just because you guys have run out of stuff to say, doesn't mean others who find this site have nothing to say. Just stop posting here. I'm not kidding. Stay on topic, or go to other threads.

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    • Fobarimperius wrote:
      I'm not closing it. Just because you guys have run out of stuff to say, doesn't mean others who find this site have nothing to say. Just stop posting here. I'm not kidding. Stay on topic, or go to other threads.

      If you say so.

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    • I'm certainly not blaming this website or any fictional character for the event that happened. However, the fact that you don't even consider (as far as I've read) shutting down the website, or changing age limits, or making any changes to the way you run this site concernes me. You should not feel responsible but perhaps some uneasiness about the situation?? And the fact that you are removing concerned people's comments just shows me you are worried they might be right and you just want to continue doing what you want.

      Again, no blame. Just "a little" concerned here.

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    • 68.94.86.223 wrote:
      I'm certainly not blaming this website or any fictional character for the event that happened. However, the fact that you don't even consider (as far as I've read) shutting down the website, or changing age limits, or making any changes to the way you run this site concernes me. You should not feel responsible but perhaps some uneasiness about the situation?? And the fact that you are removing concerned people's comments just shows me you are worried they might be right and you just want to continue doing what you want.

      Again, no blame. Just "a little" concerned here.

      First of all, there is absolutely no way for us to tell how old someone is on this site since it is run through wikia and they, by default, assume you are 13 if you make an account. It is impossible for me or anyone here or even anyone on wikia to ascertain your actual age if you lie.

      Secondly, we are certainly not going to shut down the website over one situation. We didn't burn every copy of Catcher in the Rye when that inspired a killing, and we didn't burn every copy of Oh Brother, Where Art Thou? When that inspired a killing. We certainly aren't now.

      Third, how do you know we aren't uneasy about the situation? We have spent a lot of time deleting comments from users claiming to be 12 or wanting to be proxies.

      Fourth, the only comments I remove are the deragatory comments insinuating this is ours or Eric Knudsen's fault, when the blame doesn't rest on us. You don't blame the gun for killing someone, you blame the person they got and from. Someone let those girls come to a horror website when they were clearly not mature enough to handle it. I like how you have basically insulted our integrity by assuming all the comments we've removed from this thread are because they're "right" when many are either spam or just plain insulting comments attacking either us, the mythos, or Eric Knudsen unfairly in ways that blame us for things that are out of our control.

      Finally, yes you are blaming us, but not for the killing, rather for apparently not overreacting to the situation. I posted this article on the main page for a long time before our Founder removed it as the relevance faded. I highlighted this thread. We, the staff here, have made strides to delete any comment where an individual admits they are under 13 and have begun taking every comment seriously when an individual states they want to be a proxy, and you are upset that we aren't doing things we either aren't capable of doing or are such an overreaction they don't make sense. What about other horror series? Lovecraftian beings? Jeff the Killer? 80's slasher films? Just because ours got blamed by two girls who clearly didn't understand the mythos (claiming Slendy owns a mansion when this has never been part of the mythos outside of a game where you're in a coma) now everyone is wondering why we don't take down this site.

      We have no intention whatsoever to remove what could possibly be information related to one of the greatest Internet Cryptids that has historically ever existed. This being, Slenderman, is scholastically important (not just this website but all of Slenderman in and of itself by its design and spread) and to remove this website on a whole simply because of a very unfortunate situation would be a massive disservice to anyone wishing to read into and understand how myths work.

      If you say we shouldn't feel responsible but then turn around and state we should respond by considering to take down this site, it is a massive contradiction. Either admit you're blaming us, or reword your statement in such a way that doesn't essentially insult our admin integrity because what you're basically saying to us right now is that we're corrupt and have decided that anyone who doesn't agree with our view on this situation has no voice, and that we will do nothing and have done nothing to address this situation because we will run things the way we want to whether you like it or not.

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    • 68.94.86.223 wrote:
      I'm certainly not blaming this website or any fictional character for the event that happened. However, the fact that you don't even consider (as far as I've read) shutting down the website, or changing age limits, or making any changes to the way you run this site concernes me. You should not feel responsible but perhaps some uneasiness about the situation?? And the fact that you are removing concerned people's comments just shows me you are worried they might be right and you just want to continue doing what you want.

      Again, no blame. Just "a little" concerned here.


      Firstly Kid, who GAVE you the audacity to talk back about this thread? Please be a little more aware of what is going on. Fobar, is actually updating and giving details to the situation. What "uneasiness" more do you want? If you can't handle a wiki with content that this one contains then simply leave. It shouldn't concern you at all. Easy as that.

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    • JjBlueDreamer1 wrote:

      Firstly Kid, who GAVE you the audacity to talk back about this thread? Please be a little more aware of what is going on. Fobar, is actually updating and giving details to the situation. What "uneasiness" more do you want? If you can't handle a wiki with content that this one contains then simply leave. It shouldn't concern you at all. Easy as that.

      Firstly, who gave you the audacity to talk rude and ape shit to a person you don't even know? Also, why is this thread still running? It has no more reason to be now!

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    • FrenchTouch wrote:
      JjBlueDreamer1 wrote:

      Firstly Kid, who GAVE you the audacity to talk back about this thread? Please be a little more aware of what is going on. Fobar, is actually updating and giving details to the situation. What "uneasiness" more do you want? If you can't handle a wiki with content that this one contains then simply leave. It shouldn't concern you at all. Easy as that.

      Firstly, who gave you the audacity to talk rude and ape shit to a person you don't even know? Also, why is this thread still running? It has no more reason to be now!

      I believe I covered that in comment 230

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    • This conversation actually doesn't serve a purpose anymore. It was in June. It would be like continue a debate about what we feel about 9/11, 13 years after the actual events. It may be useful, but it makes no sense, as it's fully covered already.

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      This conversation actually doesn't serve a purpose anymore. It was in June. It would be like continue a debate about what we feel about 9/11, 13 years after the actual events. It may be useful, but it makes no sense, as it's fully covered already.


      You didn't listen, did you? When Foba stated, that the thread would stay opened, it weren't a suggestion. So who gave you the right to state that there will be no one who wants to write his thoughts here? To discuss the event? On other Wikis we have threads to discss people who lived hundrets of years ago. Also, everything this Anon wrote was already covered, too. Altough I don't completely agree with the way, Dreamer responded, there was no reason to call her post "Ape Shit". I think we're all intelligent enough to discuss without such terms.

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    • Well, you have a point, but talking about her post, it was pretty rude towards the concerned user, plus there's no way to know who that user is, as he's an anon, so, yeah. If anyone considers my advice wrong, well OK, I ain't gonna judge that. I'm open to everyone there.

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      Well, you have a point, but talking about her post, it was pretty rude towards the concerned user, plus there's no way to know who that user is, as he's an anon, so, yeah. If anyone considers my advice wrong, well OK, I ain't gonna judge that. I'm open to everyone there.

      As I said, I did not agree with her agressive attitude. But concerning the Anon thing, it's not like they have no possibility to make us know them. They can make accounts or at least sign their posts with names, as many do, at least if they intend to stay here. Otherwise it doesn't matter anyway. And the thought of shutting down Slender Man Wiki is simply ridiculous.

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    • And the thought of shutting down Slender Man Wiki is simply ridiculous.

      Of course. And plain stupid, as we're not responsible for the shit that happened there. Even the parents of these children are more guilty than us, so we can say we're fine.

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    • FrenchTouch wrote:
      This conversation actually doesn't serve a purpose anymore. It was in June. It would be like continue a debate about what we feel about 9/11, 13 years after the actual events. It may be useful, but it makes no sense, as it's fully covered already.

      While this may be slgihtly off topic (my on topic reply is in progress), keep in mind we still do talk about 9/11 13 f*ckin' years after it happened. Same with the Holmes shooting (which I will touch upon again in my main reply), the jeddica ridgeway murder (she gets a f*ckin' park), sandy creek, and all that shit.

      I don't know, maybe it's my lack of empathy, but I'm sick of people overreacting to these tragedies. Yeah, its sucks that it happened, but it did, it's over, get the f*ck over it people.

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    • I didn't say it was impossible, I just said it makes no sense, and yes, everybody should get over it. 9/11 was a tragedy, shyeah, but do people give a f about the Holocaust? Hu uh, no body. And personally, I can tell you that I find that pretty f-in' off that not even right after the war, everyone pardoned Germany and took it as an ally, which basically means every ancestor of I during this period basically died for nothing. I know that's off-topic, but it can be yours too. Here's why, we should get the hell over 9/11, because there are so much tragedies no one cares and knows about because most of the time, those tragedies come from our countries.

      e.g. USA for Colombine Massacre and takeover of the Native Americans' land, France for the whole occidental Africa and the decapitation of multiple innocent people (reminds ya o' something?) and others for many more.

      That doesn't mean we don't care, it just doesn't have to occupy our lives for ever.

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    • 68.94.86.223 wrote:
      I'm certainly not blaming this website or any fictional character for the event that happened. However, the fact that you don't even consider (as far as I've read) shutting down the website, or changing age limits, or making any changes to the way you run this site concernes me. You should not feel responsible but perhaps some uneasiness about the situation?? And the fact that you are removing concerned people's comments just shows me you are worried they might be right and you just want to continue doing what you want.

      Again, no blame. Just "a little" concerned here.

      Okay, listen the f*ck up chillen's. This is a fuckin' rediculous sugestion (pardon my language, I've had two cups of coffee, am all jittery, and annoyed and I'm gonna go on a rant here).

      It is NOT the fault of Slenderman that those girls stabbed another. Nor is it the fault of Slenderman/Soul Eater that the other chick burned her fucking house down. And by extention, it's not the fault of batman/the joker that James Holmes shot all those fuckers down.

      You CANNOT blame pop culture for the actions of these people. IN the case of the two girls, the fact that they did this suggests something about their state of mind. They said they wanted to live in slenderman's "forest mansion", something they invented themselves. So, that alone means that they added shit in their own minds, rather than stick to the actual mythos. Two: The fact that they did this means that they were unhappy with their lives. They wanted something new, something exiting and thrilling to add meaning or purpose to their lives, to get away from their mundane existance. They happened to be fans of creepypasta, so their disturbed minds happened to fixate on slenderman (people with psychological problems often fixate on a certain person/object. Such as in the case of the guy who shot john lennon). So, in their disturbed minds, they believed that of they killed this girl in a ritual stabbing, then slenderman would come and make them into proxies, and they would be happy with this new life. However, as slenderman does not exist, it didn't work, obviously, and they almost killed an "innocent" girl (I use the term "innocent" sparingly, as no one is "innocent" in my oppinion).

      In the case of the chick who burned down her house, she was just trying to cache in on the media hype about the stabbings for her own little 15 fuckin' minutes of fame. Even the police aren't taking her claims seriously about her being "inspired by slender man".

      And with James Homes ('cause it is related), he was also psychologically disturbed. He was "socially off", and apperently had several psychological issues. He just happened to be a fan of DC comics, and "Dark Knight Rises" just happened to be coming to theaters arround the time he snapped. However, had he been a fan of another franchise, and that movie happened to be in theaters at the time, he probably would have shot up that film instead.

      If the girls hadn't known about slenderman, they'd probably have joined a cult instead. People like these are desprate, and need something else in their life, and that unfortunately they usually kill because of it.

      IT IS NOT, AND NEVER WILL BE THE FAULT OF FICTIONAL CHARACTERS OR POP CULTURE. EVER SEINCE THAT BIGSHOT PSYCHOLOGIST FROM THE 50's TRIED TO BLAME JUVINILE DELINQUANCY AND HOMOEROTICISM ON BATMAN,THE MEDIA ALWAYS LOVES TO BLAME POP CULTURE FOR CRIMES BY PEOPLE. BECAUSE FOR SOME REASON, SOCIETY CANNOT FUCKING ACCEPT THAT SOME PEOPLE JUST KILL  BECAUSE THEY CAN. THEY LOVE TO BELIEVE THAT WE ARE SO MUCH BETTER THAN ANIMALS, BUT WE ARE NOT. WE ARE JUST AS BAD, MAYBE EVEN WORSE CAUSE WE DENY IT. WE KILL BECAUSE WE CAN, WITH LITTLE TO NO EXCUSE (THINK "WAR ON TERROR"). SO TO EVEN THINK OF BLAMING POPULAR FICTION IS COMPLEATE AND UTTER BULLSHIT. YOUR SUGGESTION TO SHUT DOWN THE GODDAMN SITE IS ALSO COMPLETE AND UTTER BULLSHIT.  IT'S NOT SLENDERMANS'S FAULT THE GIRL WAS STABBED, NOR IS IT THE FAULT OF FOBAR OR THE WIKI. SO I'D SUGGEST TAKING YOUR OVERSIZED EGO OUT OF YOUR FUCKING ASS, AND THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE SUGGESTING.

      I would continue, but I'm just really f*ckin' angry right now and I think I need to calm the fuck down for a bit. I may or may not come abck to this thread, but chances are no because I am litterally shaking in anger. Like, litterally virating all over. It's not pleasant. 

      So, Tschau, Auf Weidersehen, and Goodbye!~

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    • Three things to say about your reply:

      • Two cups of coffee? Oh god, I don't wanna see you on nicotine :D
      • All the rest: Completely off-topic, but right, so, thumbs up!
      • If "Tschau" is the Italian Salute, then it's "Ciao". If it's the German one, then it's "Tchuss". Just wanted to point out. :)
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    • Corrupt Secrets wrote:
      PyroGothNerd wrote:
      Actually Evan, it has to do with whether or not the girls were actually insane. I'm arguing they weren't, and knew full well what they were doing, and Implord is arguing that they were insane and thus didn't fully understand what they were doing.
      You can have bouts of insanity, but I think that if they were insane they still ARE insane, due to the fact that one of them commented that she felt no remorse. Which may be what Implord is arguing, don't know which he means.

      As for my opinion, I would have to see which definition of insaity is being used.

      Actually, feeling no remorse is not a sign of insanity, but rather sociopathy/psychopathy. I am a sociopath, but I am not insane. I have trouble feeling guilt, remorse, or empathy, but I am perfectly sane, and am in compleate control over my actions.

      For someone to be insane, they must be so mentally unwell that they cannot comprehend what they did, and thus cannot be held responsible. The girls were fully aware of what they did, and are thus legally sane. Yes. Legally. Insanity is a legal term, not a medical/psychological term.

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    • FrenchTouch wrote:
      Three things to say about your reply:
      • Two cups of coffee? Oh god, I don't wanna see you on nicotine :D
      • All the rest: Completely off-topic, but right, so, thumbs up!
      • If "Tschau" is the Italian Salute, then it's "Ciao". If it's the German one, then it's "Tchuss". Just wanted to point out. :)
      • Well, good thing I'll enver take nicotine.
      • Well aware it was off topic, but it was still related. ironically, last night I debated soemthing simmilar about Holmes, and how murder and violence are innate in humans because of when we were a society of nomadic hunters who had to fight to survive. And the whole thign on human morality? I slip into that whenever I'm pissed. Mostly 'cause I see "good" and "evil" as bullshit concepts that hold no real value. As you can see, I'm a philosopher.
      • Acually, both "Tchau" and "Tchüss" are German, but your right, "Tschau" is also the italian "Ciao".
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    • - very subtle wink -

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    • Alright then?

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    • Alrighty then.

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    • Sheesh, whenever you think a thread is dead, one person pops up and suddenly everyone following the thread starts commenting again...

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    • What a psychological proof of conformism, ain't it?

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    • PyroGothNerd wrote:
      Sheesh, whenever you think a thread is dead, one person pops up and suddenly everyone following the thread starts commenting again...

      Well last night Fob asked me if I had anything to say, as Evan agreed with the anon. She asked for my oppinion, so I gave it. SOrry if it was an inconviniance.

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    • Well, here it was all of us getting angry at someone. Usually what I see is "Sheesh, this thread is still alive?" Which leads me me replying:

      This was a triumph

      ......

      and then everyone's singing Still Alive

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    • ...okay, so I only did that once, but still...

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    • TheScareCr0we wrote:
      PyroGothNerd wrote:
      Sheesh, whenever you think a thread is dead, one person pops up and suddenly everyone following the thread starts commenting again...
      Well last night Fob asked me if I had anything to say, as Evan agreed with the anon. She asked for my oppinion, so I gave it. SOrry if it was an inconviniance.

      EVAN AGREED WITH THE ANON?!?

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    • wat de hel

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    • Apperenlty.

      Evan333, in case you were thinking of a different evan  

      68.94.86.223 wrote:

      I'm certainly not blaming this website or any fictional character for the event that happened. However, the fact that you don't even consider (as far as I've read) shutting down the website, or changing age limits, or making any changes to the way you run this site concernes me. You should not feel responsible but perhaps some uneasiness about the situation?? And the fact that you are removing concerned people's comments just shows me you are worried they might be right and you just want to continue doing what you want.

      Again, no blame. Just "a little" concerned here.

      Evan 333 wrote:
      ^ *nods* 
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    • Evan...explain yourself. NOW.

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    • Pyro, please. Just don't. My comment may cause enoguh issues as is. Please refrain from provoking anyone else. I don't want to start another conflict.

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    • First: You shouldn't have mentioned names if you didn't want to start an argument. You could have said "someone agreed with the anon" instead

      Second, I'm hoping Evan misread that comment, or that his "nod" was supposed to indicate something else, and that it was a misunderstanding.

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    • Well, I'm tired, and I'm not thinking straight. So, sorry for that.

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    • PyroGothNerd wrote:
      TheScareCr0we wrote:
      PyroGothNerd wrote:
      Sheesh, whenever you think a thread is dead, one person pops up and suddenly everyone following the thread starts commenting again...
      Well last night Fob asked me if I had anything to say, as Evan agreed with the anon. She asked for my oppinion, so I gave it. SOrry if it was an inconviniance.
      EVAN AGREED WITH THE ANON?!?

      It didn't even noticed up to now. Evan?

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    • Ahh, fuck. Why did I say anything?

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    • TheScareCr0we wrote:
      Corrupt Secrets wrote:
      PyroGothNerd wrote:
      Actually Evan, it has to do with whether or not the girls were actually insane. I'm arguing they weren't, and knew full well what they were doing, and Implord is arguing that they were insane and thus didn't fully understand what they were doing.
      You can have bouts of insanity, but I think that if they were insane they still ARE insane, due to the fact that one of them commented that she felt no remorse. Which may be what Implord is arguing, don't know which he means.

      As for my opinion, I would have to see which definition of insaity is being used.

      Actually, feeling no remorse is not a sign of insanity, but rather sociopathy/psychopathy. I am a sociopath, but I am not insane. I have trouble feeling guilt, remorse, or empathy, but I am perfectly sane, and am in compleate control over my actions.

      For someone to be insane, they must be so mentally unwell that they cannot comprehend what they did, and thus cannot be held responsible. The girls were fully aware of what they did, and are thus legally sane. Yes. Legally. Insanity is a legal term, not a medical/psychological term.

      Yeah, but the girls also talked to Voldemort, saw Unicorns and thought they could controll minds.

      Okay, at least one of them did. You speak German, Scarecrow?

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    • Implord wrote:
      TheScareCr0we wrote:
      Corrupt Secrets wrote:
      PyroGothNerd wrote:
      Actually Evan, it has to do with whether or not the girls were actually insane. I'm arguing they weren't, and knew full well what they were doing, and Implord is arguing that they were insane and thus didn't fully understand what they were doing.
      You can have bouts of insanity, but I think that if they were insane they still ARE insane, due to the fact that one of them commented that she felt no remorse. Which may be what Implord is arguing, don't know which he means.

      As for my opinion, I would have to see which definition of insaity is being used.

      Actually, feeling no remorse is not a sign of insanity, but rather sociopathy/psychopathy. I am a sociopath, but I am not insane. I have trouble feeling guilt, remorse, or empathy, but I am perfectly sane, and am in compleate control over my actions.

      For someone to be insane, they must be so mentally unwell that they cannot comprehend what they did, and thus cannot be held responsible. The girls were fully aware of what they did, and are thus legally sane. Yes. Legally. Insanity is a legal term, not a medical/psychological term.

      Yeah, but the girls also talked to Voldemort, saw Unicorns and thought they could controll minds.

      Okay, at least one of them did. You speak German, Scarecrow?

      Well, okay. Maybe one of them could qualify for insanity. However, if they can be proven to have been aware of what they were doing, they can still be found guilty. Even though they'll probably be tried as a minor, and when they turn 18, this will be wiped of their crime record.

      And yeah, I'm having to take German in school. On the plus side, it's an easy class and I'm picking up on it better than spanish. Even though I'm listening to music fir the entire class.

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    • Implord wrote:
      TheScareCr0we wrote:
      Corrupt Secrets wrote:
      PyroGothNerd wrote:
      Actually Evan, it has to do with whether or not the girls were actually insane. I'm arguing they weren't, and knew full well what they were doing, and Implord is arguing that they were insane and thus didn't fully understand what they were doing.
      You can have bouts of insanity, but I think that if they were insane they still ARE insane, due to the fact that one of them commented that she felt no remorse. Which may be what Implord is arguing, don't know which he means.

      As for my opinion, I would have to see which definition of insaity is being used.

      Actually, feeling no remorse is not a sign of insanity, but rather sociopathy/psychopathy. I am a sociopath, but I am not insane. I have trouble feeling guilt, remorse, or empathy, but I am perfectly sane, and am in compleate control over my actions.

      For someone to be insane, they must be so mentally unwell that they cannot comprehend what they did, and thus cannot be held responsible. The girls were fully aware of what they did, and are thus legally sane. Yes. Legally. Insanity is a legal term, not a medical/psychological term.

      Yeah, but the girls also talked to Voldemort, saw Unicorns and thought they could controll minds.

      Okay, at least one of them did. You speak German, Scarecrow?


      As I mentioned when talking to you, though, the girl could have easily made that up. It doesn't take much imagination to make riddiculous claims. Some woman is claiming Disney based Frozen off her life and is trying to sue them. http://money.cnn.com/2014/09/26/media/frozen-lawsuit/

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    • Implord wrote:
      Jjtninja wrote:
      I'm one of the writers for Creepypasta, and already I'm getting crap about this. *Sigh* I won't bother repeating what was written above or the statement that was written on Creepypasta, since it already shows my belief about all of this.

      You don't kill people  for something you've read about that's fiction...common sense.

      Yeah right, because killing for a evil monster that actually exists would make so much more sense...

      Seriously, even if someone would believe in Slender Man (I, for my part believe in ghosts, so I can't blame them) it would be no reason to kill at all. These girls are somehow psychological damaged and it's just ridiculus to blame Slender Man, this Wiki or even it's Users. Did anyone ever blamed the little green imps who told people to set things on fire? Did anyone ever tried to blame Cthulhu because some Lovecraft- Fans killed for him? No. They sued god, though...

      Someone sued God? Who was the plantif lawyer, Lucifer?

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    • TheScareCr0we wrote:
      Implord wrote:
      Jjtninja wrote:
      I'm one of the writers for Creepypasta, and already I'm getting crap about this. *Sigh* I won't bother repeating what was written above or the statement that was written on Creepypasta, since it already shows my belief about all of this.

      You don't kill people  for something you've read about that's fiction...common sense.

      Yeah right, because killing for a evil monster that actually exists would make so much more sense...

      Seriously, even if someone would believe in Slender Man (I, for my part believe in ghosts, so I can't blame them) it would be no reason to kill at all. These girls are somehow psychological damaged and it's just ridiculus to blame Slender Man, this Wiki or even it's Users. Did anyone ever blamed the little green imps who told people to set things on fire? Did anyone ever tried to blame Cthulhu because some Lovecraft- Fans killed for him? No. They sued god, though...

      Someone sued God? Who was the plantif lawyer, Lucifer?


      Well, and ancient Roman guy tried to wage war on Poseidon by having his men stab the ocean...

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    • Oh, yeah, I just thoguht of soemthing. Daemon mentioned the real Cthulhu Cults.

      Let me just say that, while I'm not a professional psychiatrist, I do have the authority to make an educated guess at the motives of the two girls.

      What gives me this authority you may ask? The real Cult of Cthulhu (which is a legalized relligion, as of 2008. It combines The Cthulhu mythos, along with Satanism, and the 4th way).

      I was a follower of The Cthulhu relligion for a while. The reason was because I hated everything and everyone. When I started following that relligion abck in the 6th grade, I ahd pretty much been abused and bullied for my whole life. I sought retrebution and vengance. What the beliefe in Cthulhu offered me was the knowlage that everyone would eventually suffer the same terrible fate, regardless of how they were in life. It gave me solace to know that one day some cosmic entity beyond our comprehension would punnish all of humanity equally for the shit that they've done. Even though that meant I'd also be killed, I didn't care because I 100% belived (and still do to some extent) that no one is innocent or just. 

      Now I look back and see how stupid I was to have thought that,as Cthulhu, like Slenderman, is most likely fictional (though, as a cryptozoologist, and a believer in the paranormal, I ahve to admit that simmilar entities may possibly exist).

      So, I can make an educated guess that holds some ground as to why these girls did this. The reason they went to such extreams and I didn't was because they didnt have the same restraint I do (that, and the cult of Cthulhu does not condone illegal activties such as murder, neither does satanism for that matter).

      So yeah. I have some authority on this subject, in case anyone was wondering.

      • Note: While I do not belive in an actual cthulhu anymore, I still belive in the philosophy behind it: That there are some forces in this world that humanity cannot begin to control, or even understand. Such as killer storms, and the unpredictability of nature. These occurances are the "Cthulhu's" and the "Great Old Ones". Things that we can only hope to understand the why, but cant ever hope to fully control or prevent. Basically, it't the nihilistic view that, in the end, were all worthless, and we're all fucked.
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    • PyroGothNerd wrote:
      TheScareCr0we wrote:
      Implord wrote:
      Jjtninja wrote:
      I'm one of the writers for Creepypasta, and already I'm getting crap about this. *Sigh* I won't bother repeating what was written above or the statement that was written on Creepypasta, since it already shows my belief about all of this.

      You don't kill people  for something you've read about that's fiction...common sense.

      Yeah right, because killing for a evil monster that actually exists would make so much more sense...
      Seriously, even if someone would believe in Slender Man (I, for my part believe in ghosts, so I can't blame them) it would be no reason to kill at all. These girls are somehow psychological damaged and it's just ridiculus to blame Slender Man, this Wiki or even it's Users. Did anyone ever blamed the little green imps who told people to set things on fire? Did anyone ever tried to blame Cthulhu because some Lovecraft- Fans killed for him? No. They sued god, though...
      Someone sued God? Who was the plantif lawyer, Lucifer?

      Well, and ancient Roman guy tried to wage war on Poseidon by having his men stab the ocean...

      Give that man a medal!!

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    • TheScareCr0we wrote:
      PyroGothNerd wrote:
      TheScareCr0we wrote:
      Implord wrote:
      Jjtninja wrote:
      I'm one of the writers for Creepypasta, and already I'm getting crap about this. *Sigh* I won't bother repeating what was written above or the statement that was written on Creepypasta, since it already shows my belief about all of this.

      You don't kill people  for something you've read about that's fiction...common sense.

      Yeah right, because killing for a evil monster that actually exists would make so much more sense...
      Seriously, even if someone would believe in Slender Man (I, for my part believe in ghosts, so I can't blame them) it would be no reason to kill at all. These girls are somehow psychological damaged and it's just ridiculus to blame Slender Man, this Wiki or even it's Users. Did anyone ever blamed the little green imps who told people to set things on fire? Did anyone ever tried to blame Cthulhu because some Lovecraft- Fans killed for him? No. They sued god, though...
      Someone sued God? Who was the plantif lawyer, Lucifer?

      Well, and ancient Roman guy tried to wage war on Poseidon by having his men stab the ocean...
      Give that man a medal!!

      Here's a cookie:
      Cookie in response to give that man a cookie
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    • PyroGothNerd wrote:
      Implord wrote:
      TheScareCr0we wrote:
      Corrupt Secrets wrote:
      PyroGothNerd wrote:
      Actually Evan, it has to do with whether or not the girls were actually insane. I'm arguing they weren't, and knew full well what they were doing, and Implord is arguing that they were insane and thus didn't fully understand what they were doing.
      You can have bouts of insanity, but I think that if they were insane they still ARE insane, due to the fact that one of them commented that she felt no remorse. Which may be what Implord is arguing, don't know which he means.

      As for my opinion, I would have to see which definition of insaity is being used.

      Actually, feeling no remorse is not a sign of insanity, but rather sociopathy/psychopathy. I am a sociopath, but I am not insane. I have trouble feeling guilt, remorse, or empathy, but I am perfectly sane, and am in compleate control over my actions.

      For someone to be insane, they must be so mentally unwell that they cannot comprehend what they did, and thus cannot be held responsible. The girls were fully aware of what they did, and are thus legally sane. Yes. Legally. Insanity is a legal term, not a medical/psychological term.

      Yeah, but the girls also talked to Voldemort, saw Unicorns and thought they could controll minds.

      Okay, at least one of them did. You speak German, Scarecrow?


      As I mentioned when talking to you, though, the girl could have easily made that up. It doesn't take much imagination to make riddiculous claims. Some woman is claiming Disney based Frozen off her life and is trying to sue them. http://money.cnn.com/2014/09/26/media/frozen-lawsuit/


      Yeah, heard that. But nobody took her serious. The girl (This is getting annoying, by the while, can't we just call her by her name? We all know who she is!) is under psychological observement, isn't she?

      Well, for those who speak a bit german, I'll link a little video of a guy named LeFloid. In Germany, kids get their info from him. He's a psychology- student in Berlin.

      12-jährige Mädchen töten für den Slenderman.

      12-jährige Mädchen töten für den Slenderman..

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    • Yeah, but the girls also talked to Voldemort, saw Unicorns and thought they could controll minds.

      Well, this symptom makes them prior to schizophrenia, and hallucinations, which doesn't make her quite insane, but she'dd need a good psychologist and a therapy. And maybe a psychiatric institute, as her symptoms, from what I gather, as all synonyms of ASPD, SAD and maybe also Obsessive Love towards the Slender Man, because, many people (mostly women) who kill for other people (mostly men) are often obsessive in their love, so, it's just a theory, as I don't know the girls yet. But if the families see that, they might want to help them going better.

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    • Well, I feel my head hurts while reading this. My cousin has still not knowing the difference between fiction and reality, she feel like her parents never teach her when she was a little girl. Her brain is able to see fictional ghosts appearing near her eyes. When she watches horror films. She believed they were real after watching it. I know, Freddy Krueger, Jason Voorhees and some others are 100% fictional. They can be never real... My head is still hurting because of her thoughts about this. I always show her some pictures of Marble Hornets and TribeTwelve characters (which it doesn't had Slenderman on it), and some PewDiePie fan arts featuring Pewds playing Slender on dA when we got bored. When she sees a faceless figure on the fanart. It never made her to call the figure "Slenderman". It just made her confusing because the figure has no face.

      Also, there was another stabbing. It was a 13 years old girl stabbing her mom. After that, her mom find out that her writings reference Slenderman. But it's not just about Slenderman. It was also about killing, demons about other violent stuff.

      Anyone heard of that?

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    • Nope, not at all. But thanks for sharing, again, people can't understand the barrier between ficiton and reality. But after what you just said about her, then she really needs psychiatric help.

      Also, about your cousin, make her read the Lavender Town creepypasta, and then make her listen to the music, then, I think she'll understand creepypastas aren't real. I'd prefer if she thought Santa Claus was real than... all the rest.

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    • Samanthatheflyingsquirrel25 wrote:
      Well, I feel my head hurts while reading this. My cousin has still not knowing the difference between fiction and reality, she feel like her parents never teach her when she was a little girl. Her brain is able to see fictional ghosts appearing near her eyes. When she watches horror films. She believed they were real after watching it. I know, Freddy Krueger, Jason Voorhees and some others are 100% fictional. They can be never real... My head is still hurting because of her thoughts about this. I always show her some pictures of Marble Hornets and TribeTwelve characters (which it doesn't had Slenderman on it), and some PewDiePie fan arts featuring Pewds playing Slender on dA, When she sees a faceless figure on the fanart. It never made her to call the figure "Slenderman". It just made her confusing because the figure has no face.

      Also, there was another stabbing. It was a 13 years old girl stabbing her mom. After that, her mom find out that her writings reference Slenderman. But it's not just about Slenderman. It was also about killing, demons about other violent stuff.

      Anyone heard of that?


      I heard of it, but the evicence for any connections to Slender Man was, according to my sources, pretty small until the medias tried to connect the whole thing to the Waukesha- stabbings.

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    • Samanthatheflyingsquirrel25 wrote:

      Also, there was another stabbing. It was a 13 years old girl stabbing her mom. After that, her mom find out that her writings reference Slenderman. But it's not just about Slenderman. It was also about killing, demons about other violent stuff.

      Anyone heard of that?

      That one was BS. Here's what happened in that case:

      Mom: Oh look, some kids stabbed over Slenderman... I'LL SAY THAT MY KID WHO TRIED TO STAB ME DID IT FOR SLENDERMAN!!!

      The Mom was full of crap, either making false connections to explain her daughter's behaviour, or wanting 15 minutes of fame.

      The girl herself never claimed to have anything to do with Slenderman.

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    • PyroGothNerd wrote:
      Samanthatheflyingsquirrel25 wrote:

      Also, there was another stabbing. It was a 13 years old girl stabbing her mom. After that, her mom find out that her writings reference Slenderman. But it's not just about Slenderman. It was also about killing, demons about other violent stuff.

      Anyone heard of that?

      That one was BS. Here's what happened in that case:

      Mom: Oh look, some kids stabbed over Slenderman... I'LL SAY THAT MY KID WHO TRIED TO STAB ME DID IT FOR SLENDERMAN!!!

      The Mom was full of crap, either making false connections to explain her daughter's behaviour, or wanting 15 minutes of fame.

      The girl herself never claimed to have anything to do with Slenderman.

      And like the 14 year old girl in florida who burned her house down. She attempted to blame slender man and soul eater. However, lucklilly the police saw through her bullshit, that she just wanted her 15 minutes.

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    • TheScareCr0we wrote:
      PyroGothNerd wrote:
      Samanthatheflyingsquirrel25 wrote:
      Also, there was another stabbing. It was a 13 years old girl stabbing her mom. After that, her mom find out that her writings reference Slenderman. But it's not just about Slenderman. It was also about killing, demons about other violent stuff.

      Anyone heard of that?

      That one was BS. Here's what happened in that case:

      Mom: Oh look, some kids stabbed over Slenderman... I'LL SAY THAT MY KID WHO TRIED TO STAB ME DID IT FOR SLENDERMAN!!!

      The Mom was full of crap, either making false connections to explain her daughter's behaviour, or wanting 15 minutes of fame.

      The girl herself never claimed to have anything to do with Slenderman.

      And like the 14 year old girl in florida who burned her house down. She attempted to blame slender man and soul eater. However, lucklilly the police saw through her bullshit, that she just wanted her 15 minutes.


      Soul Eater? She tried to blame Soul Eater?!?

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    • PyroGothNerd wrote:
      TheScareCr0we wrote:
      PyroGothNerd wrote:
      Samanthatheflyingsquirrel25 wrote:
      Also, there was another stabbing. It was a 13 years old girl stabbing her mom. After that, her mom find out that her writings reference Slenderman. But it's not just about Slenderman. It was also about killing, demons about other violent stuff.

      Anyone heard of that?

      That one was BS. Here's what happened in that case:
      Mom: Oh look, some kids stabbed over Slenderman... I'LL SAY THAT MY KID WHO TRIED TO STAB ME DID IT FOR SLENDERMAN!!!

      The Mom was full of crap, either making false connections to explain her daughter's behaviour, or wanting 15 minutes of fame.

      The girl herself never claimed to have anything to do with Slenderman.

      And like the 14 year old girl in florida who burned her house down. She attempted to blame slender man and soul eater. However, lucklilly the police saw through her bullshit, that she just wanted her 15 minutes.

      Soul Eater? She tried to blame Soul Eater?!?

      Eeyup.

      http://thestir.cafemom.com/in_the_news/176871/teen_girl_burn_family_house_down?next=11

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    • TheScareCr0we wrote:
      PyroGothNerd wrote:
      TheScareCr0we wrote:
      PyroGothNerd wrote:
      Samanthatheflyingsquirrel25 wrote:
      Also, there was another stabbing. It was a 13 years old girl stabbing her mom. After that, her mom find out that her writings reference Slenderman. But it's not just about Slenderman. It was also about killing, demons about other violent stuff.

      Anyone heard of that?

      That one was BS. Here's what happened in that case:
      Mom: Oh look, some kids stabbed over Slenderman... I'LL SAY THAT MY KID WHO TRIED TO STAB ME DID IT FOR SLENDERMAN!!!

      The Mom was full of crap, either making false connections to explain her daughter's behaviour, or wanting 15 minutes of fame.

      The girl herself never claimed to have anything to do with Slenderman.

      And like the 14 year old girl in florida who burned her house down. She attempted to blame slender man and soul eater. However, lucklilly the police saw through her bullshit, that she just wanted her 15 minutes.

      Soul Eater? She tried to blame Soul Eater?!?
      Eeyup.

      http://thestir.cafemom.com/in_the_news/176871/teen_girl_burn_family_house_down?next=11


      The comments are the best part...everyone's talking about the how lazy the journalist was!!! LOL

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    • PyroGothNerd wrote:
      TheScareCr0we wrote:
      PyroGothNerd wrote:
      TheScareCr0we wrote:
      PyroGothNerd wrote:
      Samanthatheflyingsquirrel25 wrote:
      Also, there was another stabbing. It was a 13 years old girl stabbing her mom. After that, her mom find out that her writings reference Slenderman. But it's not just about Slenderman. It was also about killing, demons about other violent stuff.

      Anyone heard of that?

      That one was BS. Here's what happened in that case:
      Mom: Oh look, some kids stabbed over Slenderman... I'LL SAY THAT MY KID WHO TRIED TO STAB ME DID IT FOR SLENDERMAN!!!

      The Mom was full of crap, either making false connections to explain her daughter's behaviour, or wanting 15 minutes of fame.

      The girl herself never claimed to have anything to do with Slenderman.

      And like the 14 year old girl in florida who burned her house down. She attempted to blame slender man and soul eater. However, lucklilly the police saw through her bullshit, that she just wanted her 15 minutes.

      Soul Eater? She tried to blame Soul Eater?!?
      Eeyup.

      http://thestir.cafemom.com/in_the_news/176871/teen_girl_burn_family_house_down?next=11


      The comments are the best part...everyone's talking about the how lazy the journalist was!!! LOL

      Eeyup.

      Here's a list of everything the media has tried to blame for juvinile delinquancy:

      • Batman (and other comic books. Also blamed batman and robin for causing homosexuality)
      • A Clockwork Orange
      • Dungeons & Dragons (belived to be a satanic suicide/murder cult)
      • Dexter (The serial killer forensic scientist)
      • Video Games. ALL OF THEM.
      • The Internet.
      • Facebook.
      • Batman, once again (James Holmes)
      • Slenderman
      • And probably more, this is all that I'm aware of.
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    • TheScareCr0we wrote:
      PyroGothNerd wrote:
      TheScareCr0we wrote:
      PyroGothNerd wrote:
      TheScareCr0we wrote:
      PyroGothNerd wrote:
      Samanthatheflyingsquirrel25 wrote:
      Also, there was another stabbing. It was a 13 years old girl stabbing her mom. After that, her mom find out that her writings reference Slenderman. But it's not just about Slenderman. It was also about killing, demons about other violent stuff.

      Anyone heard of that?

      That one was BS. Here's what happened in that case:
      Mom: Oh look, some kids stabbed over Slenderman... I'LL SAY THAT MY KID WHO TRIED TO STAB ME DID IT FOR SLENDERMAN!!!

      The Mom was full of crap, either making false connections to explain her daughter's behaviour, or wanting 15 minutes of fame.

      The girl herself never claimed to have anything to do with Slenderman.

      And like the 14 year old girl in florida who burned her house down. She attempted to blame slender man and soul eater. However, lucklilly the police saw through her bullshit, that she just wanted her 15 minutes.

      Soul Eater? She tried to blame Soul Eater?!?
      Eeyup.

      http://thestir.cafemom.com/in_the_news/176871/teen_girl_burn_family_house_down?next=11


      The comments are the best part...everyone's talking about the how lazy the journalist was!!! LOL
      Eeyup.

      Here's a list of everything the media has tried to blame for juvinile delinquancy:

      • Batman (and other comic books. Also blamed batman and robin for causing homosexuality)
      • A Clockwork Orange
      • Dungeons & Dragons (belived to be a satanic suicide/murder cult)
      • Dexter (The serial killer forensic scientist)
      • Video Games. ALL OF THEM.
      • The Internet.
      • Facebook.
      • Batman, once again (James Holmes)
      • Slenderman
      • And probably more, this is all that I'm aware of.


      Horror Films. You forgot Horror Films.

      Power Rangers.

      Anything more violent than Winnie the Pooh, but not as violent as Watership Down.

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    • You also forgot Manga and Anime.

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    • Implord wrote:
      You also forgot Manga and Anime.

      Yeah. Basically: Evrything. Media has blamed everything.

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    • TheScareCr0we wrote:
      Implord wrote:
      You also forgot Manga and Anime.
      Yeah. Basically: Evrything. Media has blamed everything.


      Except the culprits.

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    • PyroGothNerd wrote:
      TheScareCr0we wrote:
      Implord wrote:
      You also forgot Manga and Anime.
      Yeah. Basically: Evrything. Media has blamed everything.

      Except the culprits.

      Eeyup

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    • Ragecomic
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    • So if you want fame, just blame everything expect you! *thumbs up* 

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    • FrenchTouch wrote:
      JjBlueDreamer1 wrote:

      Firstly Kid, who GAVE you the audacity to talk back about this thread? Please be a little more aware of what is going on. Fobar, is actually updating and giving details to the situation. What "uneasiness" more do you want? If you can't handle a wiki with content that this one contains then simply leave. It shouldn't concern you at all. Easy as that.

      Firstly, who gave you the audacity to talk rude and ape shit to a person you don't even know? Also, why is this thread still running? It has no more reason to be now!

      K, lol.

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      Don't encourage this argument further
      05:15, September 29, 2014
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    • Evan 333 wrote:
      So if you want fame, just blame everything expect you! *thumbs up* 

      And if you just want attention or appreciation, forget about it, because nobody likes attention fishers. Dwell in your insecurity alone until you blow up and let people call: "Terrible, why did nobody see the omens?"

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    • TheScareCr0we wrote:


      68.94.86.223 wrote:
      I'm certainly not blaming this website or any fictional character for the event that happened. However, the fact that you don't even consider (as far as I've read) shutting down the website, or changing age limits, or making any changes to the way you run this site concernes me. You should not feel responsible but perhaps some uneasiness about the situation?? And the fact that you are removing concerned people's comments just shows me you are worried they might be right and you just want to continue doing what you want.

      Again, no blame. Just "a little" concerned here.

      Okay, listen the f*ck up chillen's. This is a fuckin' rediculous sugestion (pardon my language, I've had two cups of coffee, am all jittery, and annoyed and I'm gonna go on a rant here).

      It is NOT the fault of Slenderman that those girls stabbed another. Nor is it the fault of Slenderman/Soul Eater that the other chick burned her fucking house down. And by extention, it's not the fault of batman/the joker that James Holmes shot all those fuckers down.

      You CANNOT blame pop culture for the actions of these people. IN the case of the two girls, the fact that they did this suggests something about their state of mind. They said they wanted to live in slenderman's "forest mansion", something they invented themselves. So, that alone means that they added shit in their own minds, rather than stick to the actual mythos. Two: The fact that they did this means that they were unhappy with their lives. They wanted something new, something exiting and thrilling to add meaning or purpose to their lives, to get away from their mundane existance. They happened to be fans of creepypasta, so their disturbed minds happened to fixate on slenderman (people with psychological problems often fixate on a certain person/object. Such as in the case of the guy who shot john lennon). So, in their disturbed minds, they believed that of they killed this girl in a ritual stabbing, then slenderman would come and make them into proxies, and they would be happy with this new life. However, as slenderman does not exist, it didn't work, obviously, and they almost killed an "innocent" girl (I use the term "innocent" sparingly, as no one is "innocent" in my oppinion).

      In the case of the chick who burned down her house, she was just trying to cache in on the media hype about the stabbings for her own little 15 fuckin' minutes of fame. Even the police aren't taking her claims seriously about her being "inspired by slender man".

      And with James Homes ('cause it is related), he was also psychologically disturbed. He was "socially off", and apperently had several psychological issues. He just happened to be a fan of DC comics, and "Dark Knight Rises" just happened to be coming to theaters arround the time he snapped. However, had he been a fan of another franchise, and that movie happened to be in theaters at the time, he probably would have shot up that film instead.

      If the girls hadn't known about slenderman, they'd probably have joined a cult instead. People like these are desprate, and need something else in their life, and that unfortunately they usually kill because of it.

      IT IS NOT, AND NEVER WILL BE THE FAULT OF FICTIONAL CHARACTERS OR POP CULTURE. EVER SEINCE THAT BIGSHOT PSYCHOLOGIST FROM THE 50's TRIED TO BLAME JUVINILE DELINQUANCY AND HOMOEROTICISM ON BATMAN,THE MEDIA ALWAYS LOVES TO BLAME POP CULTURE FOR CRIMES BY PEOPLE. BECAUSE FOR SOME REASON, SOCIETY CANNOT FUCKING ACCEPT THAT SOME PEOPLE JUST KILL  BECAUSE THEY CAN. THEY LOVE TO BELIEVE THAT WE ARE SO MUCH BETTER THAN ANIMALS, BUT WE ARE NOT. WE ARE JUST AS BAD, MAYBE EVEN WORSE CAUSE WE DENY IT. WE KILL BECAUSE WE CAN, WITH LITTLE TO NO EXCUSE (THINK "WAR ON TERROR"). SO TO EVEN THINK OF BLAMING POPULAR FICTION IS COMPLEATE AND UTTER BULLSHIT. YOUR SUGGESTION TO SHUT DOWN THE GODDAMN SITE IS ALSO COMPLETE AND UTTER BULLSHIT.  IT'S NOT SLENDERMANS'S FAULT THE GIRL WAS STABBED, NOR IS IT THE FAULT OF FOBAR OR THE WIKI. SO I'D SUGGEST TAKING YOUR OVERSIZED EGO OUT OF YOUR FUCKING ASS, AND THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE SUGGESTING.

      I would continue, but I'm just really f*ckin' angry right now and I think I need to calm the fuck down for a bit. I may or may not come abck to this thread, but chances are no because I am litterally shaking in anger. Like, litterally virating all over. It's not pleasant. 

      So, Tschau, Auf Weidersehen, and Goodbye!~

      Crow I know this may be a stupid question, but can us humans still redemend ourselves? 

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    • I believe you have to at least be trying to make amends. Can't speak for Scarecrow, though.

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    • PyroGothNerd wrote:
      I believe you have to at least be trying to make amends. Can't speak for Scarecrow, though.

      Cr0w has no faith in humanity in general, so he doesn't believe that such redemption will be possible due to human nature.

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    • That's sad.

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    • Implord wrote:
      That's sad.

      Yeah, I guess, but I honnestly don't belive in humanity, or a benign higher power. I belive everyone is inheritantly "evil" by the common definition of the word, and that nothing is "good". I honnestly belive that without rules and social order, everyone would give into these primal urges. The only reason people would stand together would be survival or sex, not because of some "greater good". 

      It wouldn't be like the survivors in The Walking Dead, where they are all "friends" most of the time. It would be more like the survivors in Left 4 Dead, where they are forced to work together in order for them all to survive. But when it all comes down to it, we are all monsters. And yeah, I do not belive in redemption (because I honnestly don't belive in an afterlife where people are punnished. After;ife is either limbo/nothing/or reincarnation).

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    • TheScareCr0we wrote:
      I belive everyone is inheritantly "evil" by the common definition of the word, and that nothing is "good"

      Sorry to say that, but when you believe in "evil", you inheritantly admit the existence of "good". Otherwise, it is called madness, ignorance, or misunderstanding. As you don't seem like a mad nor stupid guy, I'd say that it's more the 3rd option :)

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    • FrenchTouch wrote:
      TheScareCr0we wrote:
      I belive everyone is inheritantly "evil" by the common definition of the word, and that nothing is "good"
      Sorry to say that, but when you believe in "evil", you inheritantly admit the existence of "good". Otherwise, it is called madness, ignorance, or misunderstanding. As you don't seem like a mad nor stupid guy, I'd say that it's more the 3rd option :)

      Wrong. I don't belive in either good or evil. I meerly used the word "evil" to put it in terms you'd understand. Your logic fails due to a belife in good and evil, and thus your mind has trouble comprehending the lack of both. Hell, I have trouble putting it to words, despite understanding.

      However, I guess a better way of putting it would be animal instinct, feral nature. Those corolate to what society accepts as "evil", although they are perfectly normal in nature.

      Let me put it this way.

      Because random injustice can occur, there is no justice. Because innocence can be destroyed, there is no innocence. Because what is considered "good" often acts "evil", or what is percived as "evil" often fights for the greater "good", it means that there is in fact no good or evil. Morality is a joke, something society created to seperate us from animals, but it's only a thin line, a thinly veild lie to keep us from the truth: WE ARE ANIMALS. No more, no less. We just have different survival habbits.

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    • TheScareCr0we wrote:
      FrenchTouch wrote:
      TheScareCr0we wrote:
      I belive everyone is inheritantly "evil" by the common definition of the word, and that nothing is "good"
      Sorry to say that, but when you believe in "evil", you inheritantly admit the existence of "good". Otherwise, it is called madness, ignorance, or misunderstanding. As you don't seem like a mad nor stupid guy, I'd say that it's more the 3rd option :)
      Wrong. I don't belive in either good or evil. I meerly used the word "evil" to put it in terms you'd understand. Your logic fails due to a belife in good and evil, and thus your mind has trouble comprehending the lack of both. Hell, I have trouble putting it to words, despite understanding.

      However, I guess a better way of putting it would be animal instinct, feral nature. Those corolate to what society accepts as "evil", although they are perfectly normal in nature.

      Let me put it this way.

      Because random injustice can occur, there is no justice. Because innocence can be destroyed, there is no innocence. Because what is considered "good" often acts "evil", or what is percived as "evil" often fights for the greater "good", it means that there is in fact no good or evil. Morality is a joke, something society created to seperate us from animals, but it's only a thin line, a thinly veild lie to keep us from the truth: WE ARE ANIMALS. No more, no less. We just have different survival habbits.

      Guys, let's not get into a debate here.

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    • PyroGothNerd wrote:
      TheScareCr0we wrote:
      FrenchTouch wrote:
      TheScareCr0we wrote:
      I belive everyone is inheritantly "evil" by the common definition of the word, and that nothing is "good"
      Sorry to say that, but when you believe in "evil", you inheritantly admit the existence of "good". Otherwise, it is called madness, ignorance, or misunderstanding. As you don't seem like a mad nor stupid guy, I'd say that it's more the 3rd option :)
      Wrong. I don't belive in either good or evil. I meerly used the word "evil" to put it in terms you'd understand. Your logic fails due to a belife in good and evil, and thus your mind has trouble comprehending the lack of both. Hell, I have trouble putting it to words, despite understanding.

      However, I guess a better way of putting it would be animal instinct, feral nature. Those corolate to what society accepts as "evil", although they are perfectly normal in nature.

      Let me put it this way.

      Because random injustice can occur, there is no justice. Because innocence can be destroyed, there is no innocence. Because what is considered "good" often acts "evil", or what is percived as "evil" often fights for the greater "good", it means that there is in fact no good or evil. Morality is a joke, something society created to seperate us from animals, but it's only a thin line, a thinly veild lie to keep us from the truth: WE ARE ANIMALS. No more, no less. We just have different survival habbits.

      Guys, let's not get into a debate here.

      Theres nothing wrong with a debate, so long as it stays like this.

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